See you and I will never see eye to eye on that. It does make a difference, you guys are calling someone out on doing something illegal that may very well be legal. How can that not make a difference? If it was me and you were saying I was doing something illegal at my shop(dont have one) and I knew I wasnt I would sue for slander. It is a very big difference....

I am not talking here about anything in regards to quality out of their shop or how they take care of customers cars...I am talking about the lagality of this issue and that is it!

 

a car is to be worked on in a Garage, a real one. the job is to be done the right way. Period

all this HOME based business is not comforty at all

 

one day I will go into great length as to the hassle we recieved the few times we actually did business with Tim..But this is not the place nor the time. I was simply asking if Tim is "calling the kettle black" but this is clear he is not if he has a store front..But I 100% bet he has taken work home to his house/shop..

 

Okay guys, I am not going to lengths here to stick up for them, I have not debated anything in regards to cars being outside in the elements or not having an enclosed shop. Come on, what I am talking about is the legality and as for another member here. I spoke with Tim and he is interested to know what I find out. I can tell you that MrA asked me about the insurance question for the shop at his house, so I am trying to find out first and foremost whether it is legal so I can answer his question.

Please understand here that I am not sticking up for anyone just trying to get the information out there. Ask Tim if he is interested in this information as well? He told me he was. It seems that members here dont want to know the truth unless it is what they wanted to hear. I am being told BAR will licesnse a shop out of a house, straight from a BAR rep! A shop in El Cajon(not in city limits) does not need a business licesnse to do work. Still waiting on EPA, but Tim said that it is possible if everything they require is in place...not sure how hard that is yet(waiting to hear back from them).

Guys, I dont like the way people act on here in reagrds to this. I dont know what I have to do short of not saying anything to show I am not defending what VRT does or how they do it. I will inregards to any shop put the truth out there and if I am wrong in my assumptions I will let you know as soon as I know for sure!

 

Can someone besides Navygolf13 verify the issues regarding requirements of BAR, EPA, and proper insurance coverage? I'm sorry, but it is impossible to believe anything that he says anymore. I don't think many of us will be satisfied until the answers come from another source that doesn't have an association with VRT.

I'd start looking this up myself, but I've got to go run some errands.

 

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your number of posts into this threads just today says you come here a lot to defend

 

How can you be a 100% sure of anything? Actually, you have not stated one thing that was true about myself or SFR in this thread The shop at my house is not equipped to do anything right now except store stuff. Again, you are stating things that are not facts! Please post facts or dont post at all! I think that is reasonable.

 

Once again...20+ pages of BS and you choose to reply to mine and only my comment..

 

Because at this point in the thread, your comment was the only one that required answering from Tim. His points and concerns have been made already, many here have questioned and/or supported them, and are asking others (aside from navygolf) to comment on them.

You and Tim are basically having a conversation here though "callouts" and he has simply responded ... and now, since you don't have a witty comeback or callout, you are asking him to stop replying to you

 

If he has insurance for his shop at his house the cars there would be covered. That is what I am trying to find out right now. If the shop is legal then it can be insured.

 

Listen, I agree with Tim and everone else in regards to VRT.I called BS on their little SCAM a while back...
All I was asking is if Tim's shop was the one in the picture at his house.Cause if it were,regardless of business legalities,he would in fact be a hypocrite. Apparently it was not his shop, and It has been stated.i see no where, as implied by others where I took a shot (in those particular posts) at Tim or his business. I have had issues with Tim and his service and his inability to keep his mouth shut, in the past.But that is for another thread and another day.
Duely noted: Tims garage at his house is for storage, not work...Perhaps he could post pics of his regular shop next time to avoid any confusion..

 

If you go back and look at the posts they are not defending anyone, just trying to let you guys know what is going on. If it is illegal then I will let you know that too! But as I have said from what I know right now it is doable.

 

that wasn't the first shot you took at him in this thread...

 

it sounded to me like you have admitted in this thread you are related to VRT in a business relationship as you said MRa contacted you about providing insurance for the new 'shop' location, hence why you are interested.

this again proves that you have a business interest in VRT... which I am sure you will again try to deny has any impact on your attitude.

but I for one cannot believe you would even do business with him after what he has done to others... and probably YOU. and I could have sworn you said you hadn't talked to him in a while in one of the other threads... not really interested to check though. if you have, did you ask him about the allegations made against him?

 

I know who Navy is now! I saw you at Cali Speedway when Foust was driving Mike's yellow VRT Z for the time attack. Hmmm. With all that's going on, has Foust decided to not have anything to do VRT? He's probably so busy that guy that he might not even care who he races for as long as they pay.

 

He did contact me about insurance and that was this week and it was the first time we spoke in a while. I do not want to get into it here but my attitude towards them is neutral right now. I want things cleared up before I have any relation with them. I dont think that is understood right now. I dont have any relation with them and I dont think I will until this is all settled.

I have asked him about the allegations and he is saying something totally different than the opinion here. Not a big surprise. We will see how it all plays out, that is all we can do....ya know? But for the time being I am trying to stay neutral as best as can be, but there is no business going on between me and VRT until this is all settled one way or the other.

 

Look Julian, you helped me out with a situation in the past and no matter what happens I wont forget and still appreciate it.Yes there were some issues in our dealings and the majority of the issues were on my side.I will take fulle responsibility. And at one point, I did open up my big mouth in my own shop to someone and shouldnt have. I didnt realize that a word I uttered would be spread through pms like wildfire At least I was man enough to admit it to you and not try to duck and dodge. Nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.So here is my public apology for opening up my big fat mouth and here is my public shoutout to Julains going out of his way to help we with a situation regarding stolen parts and here is the final shoutout that some of my dealings with Julian, were not smooth and easy going because of some issues on my part!

Maybe I cant repair our past dealings but I can certainly work on the future and try to make it better for you and for me and for everyone else.Getting into flames wars is ridiculous,especially between vendors. When it does happen, it leaves a bad taste in everyones mouth and does neither of the vendors anygood and in fact it can hurt their businesses. I would rather keep it clean and if I do make a mistake, or post something dishonest, call me out. I will deserve it.But if I am not doing anything wrong and there are assumptions being made......then these assumptions should be verified before the accustations are unleashed.I mean, I would have that respect for anyone, even VRT. I waited and waited and figured out what was going on and let the cat out of the bag.

 

why did they ban you?

 

Okay so I got a call back and I was at the wrong place. You CAN get an EPA ID number in unincorporated areas of a county simply by filling out an application. The place to do it is Generator Services Department and the number is (916)255-4783.

So to recap BAR says they will license if you have EPA ID number, Employee Identification Number(if not a corporation you can use a social security number), and a sellers permit which you can get for a business out of your house. So, unless there is something else I am missing anyone can run a shop out of their house, Tim if you want more information let me know.

As for anything else debated here I dont want to get into it, I just wanted to point out that the people who said it was illegal were wrong and must not have looked into it. This is why I dont believe the first thing people say!