I was looking at my car today and thought of an idea for a TT design that would be different from the conventional Greddy or APS style. Instead of mounting the turbo's down low, how about doing a twin turbo in the T-netics style with the turbo's up top in place of the current air intake boxes. It would make sense with the twin t-bodies to run something like this layout. Any thoughts??

 

Look at the Power Labs/intense motorsports single turbo thread. They already did a one-off setup like this. All you've got to do is flip the manifolds around or make custom exhaust manifolds that go forward, then fit all of the rest of the piping in and relocate the fluid resivoirs.

I still think it would be much easier to do a conventional lower manifold mount setup, due to space constraints.

 

From the HR dissection thread, Sharif did say there was more room for piping long the sides of the motor. This is what got me thinking about the design. The only real re-location you would have to do would be the power steering resevoir in the passenger front. Other than that it is quite open, much like the drivers front side.

 

Flipping the manifold around would not be as easy as you think. This would require remounting some of the belt driven components. If you took the A/C out and remounted the P/S on one side and the alternator on the other side (who knows, maybe one of those components could stay mounted how they are now and have clearance) then you could do this. However, this would also require you to make new belt idler pullies most likely depending on where they were located and if the belt couldn't be run straight to the unit.

 

Yeah, I don't think changing the belt system is an option. I would think it would have to be a similar system to what T-netics uses to get the exhaust up to the turbo and back out again. Intercooler set-up would be something similar to JWT with inlets and outlets on both ends of the unit. Maybe a dual intercooler system.

 

i doubt the piping is the hold up.. any big company like Greddy could sort out the piping in no time.. its probably the EMS ... but one would think since the F Con completely drives the car itself.. it should be able to do that.. but maybe the harness is diff

 

 

i explored flipping manifolds and it wont work because of port alignment.sucks but custom is the only way.

 

I still think you can go off a stock manifold design and loop it back up to the front corner for the turbo.

 

Unless you were going for extremely high horsepower a simple log design exhaust manifold could be made with simplicity and ease in mind.

 

i would just get a standard greddy kit without the intercooler and do a custom FMIC with twin outlets on the top... no problem at all.

 

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Agreed if the manifold ports are the same.

 

Greddy manifolds bolt right up...we checked it when we took apart the "Green Machine". See VQ35HR dissected thread for details.

The HR kit just requires custom/modified piping changes, and a new EMS harness..that's about it.

 

 

C'mon Phunk...that's the easy way out. I'm thinking of a completely new TT design that would look and function great with the new HR twin t-bodies and take advantage of the newly created space from the current twin airbox locations.

 

a log style would probably work great considering aps and greddy are both log style cast.just go foward not back,would be some long a$$ down pipes though.

 

I know. You'd have to lose the AC or make a custom bracket/belt setup to run it. Also I think power steering would be a problem. Still,with a custom kit you would have to expect this.

Making some custom manifolds isn't as hard as it may seem. The right shop should be able to do it no problem.

And yes, the EMS is the big holdup.

 

I agree with you taurran that the PS would be a problem. I would just mount it like Phunk did on his car and use the 4-rib section on the crank pulley for the PS after you remove the A/C.

 

i think the AEM would be the way to go with this setup just build a custom harness.

would be cool to see the turbo's in the engine bay.. but realisticly what about a rear mount setup? like STS but with twins?

 

Remember guys the HR has a completely different belt and accessory system than than the DE motors. The only real problem in the passenger front corner is the power steering resevoir.