Built engine - un-install -re-install cost's comparo
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Originally Posted by sentry65
Since this was directed towards me, I assumed you were refering to GTM since that's the only shop I've really been to in CA aside from Performance Nissan almost 3 years ago
I also said in one post that may be the Mods should close the thread because it looked like no one was going to share and compare rates charged for the work done to thier cars .
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Originally Posted by sentry65
hmm I could be wrong, but I thought the $13000 price tag included (at CA's higher hourly rate):
tuningdiagnostic testing and troubleshooting
taking the engine out
taking the old engine apart
a new engine
engine install
new tune
not just:
taking the old engine apart
a new engine
engine install
tuningdiagnostic testing and troubleshooting
taking the engine out
taking the old engine apart
a new engine
engine install
new tune
not just:
taking the old engine apart
a new engine
engine install
Read all of the posts !
I said that even if rates are higher in bigger cities and the 13,000 included other work done like compression test , tuning , and other things . It was still way over what another top notch shop would charge .
Again try reading every post and pay attention this time !!!
Originally Posted by booger
Ok...now that you want to or have been sent to defend GTM and be thier nut hugger .
Read all of the posts !
I said that even if rates are higher in bigger cities and the 13,000 included other work done like compression test , tuning , and other things . It was still way over what another top notch shop would charge .
Again try reading every post and pay attention this time !!!
Read all of the posts !
I said that even if rates are higher in bigger cities and the 13,000 included other work done like compression test , tuning , and other things . It was still way over what another top notch shop would charge .
Again try reading every post and pay attention this time !!!
if i'm a GTM nut hugger, then you're a GTM basher
oooooonot trying to be mean or anything, but so far this is how I'd summarize up this thread:
Booger:
bla bla bla CA has expensive shops! All you people going to CA for work are stupid to pay those prices
everyone else:
hmm they're not really all that high when factoring in cost of living and besides, CA has some of the best shops in the country specializing in the Z/G with more resources and knowledge available than most general performance shops. And none of us have paid anything near what you're talking about
Booger:
well my local shop in the middle of nebraska is just as good for MUCH less money, so there!
everyone else:
uh well ok then. Glad that was straightened out

...I know, I know, there's probably a LOT deeper meaning and intrinsic knowledge contained in this thread than my view of these posts so far. So if I left anything out, I'm truely sorry
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Originally Posted by sentry65
well ok, if we're going to go there,
if i'm a GTM nut hugger, then you're a GTM basher
if i'm a GTM nut hugger, then you're a GTM basher

I have never said anything in the open forum to express MPO . Not untill George from GTM came in here and put his shop in the light .
MPO is MPO.....If you dont want to here about it...dont ask !!!!
EDIT AFTER SENTRY ADD"S TO HIS POST
Again...you dont read all of the post or you only want to read the part you think will be useful later .
I said if a shop or shops in Cali. charges $200 an Hr . I would be shipping my car to Nebraska and save several thousand .
Last edited by booger; Aug 10, 2007 at 12:38 PM.
that's weird since I've hardly posted in this thread...guess I must carry THAT much weight when I post then hmm? I dunno 
I'm just trying to sort out the truth for those of us that HAVE had work done in CA
I have no idea who you mean then
I've gone to GTM and performance nissan, so not sure why you think I'd know who you're talking about??? I could only assume you were talking about GTM
you never came out and posted the name of the shop. Are we supposed to be psychic or something?
so what in your personal opinion should everyone do?
Perhaps we should all go to nebraska so we can have your top shop with extensive Z/G knowledge work on all our cars for $80/hr?

I'm just trying to sort out the truth for those of us that HAVE had work done in CA
Originally Posted by booger
I recieved a PM stating $200 an Hr is charged by a top shop in Cali . and Im pretty sure you know what shop .
I can see that in larger cities that you would be charged more per hr . But $200 hr is rediculous . I dont care how good they think they are . I would be shipping my car to Nebraska for $80 hr . And still come out on top by a few thousand
I also think Im right in saying $80 Hr. is in line in MOST states
I can see that in larger cities that you would be charged more per hr . But $200 hr is rediculous . I dont care how good they think they are . I would be shipping my car to Nebraska for $80 hr . And still come out on top by a few thousand
I also think Im right in saying $80 Hr. is in line in MOST states
I've gone to GTM and performance nissan, so not sure why you think I'd know who you're talking about??? I could only assume you were talking about GTM
you never came out and posted the name of the shop. Are we supposed to be psychic or something?
so what in your personal opinion should everyone do?
Perhaps we should all go to nebraska so we can have your top shop with extensive Z/G knowledge work on all our cars for $80/hr?
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Originally Posted by sentry65
that's weird since I've hardly posted in this thread...guess I must carry THAT much weight when I post then hmm? I dunno
I'm just trying to sort out the truth for those of us that HAVE had work done in CA
I have no idea who you mean then
I've gone to GTM and performance nissan, so not sure why you think I'd know who you're talking about??? I could only assume you were talking about GTM
you never came out and posted the name of the shop. Are we supposed to be psychic or something?
so what in your personal opinion should everyone do?
Perhaps we should all go to nebraska so we can have your top shop with extensive Z/G knowledge work on all our cars for $80/hr?
I'm just trying to sort out the truth for those of us that HAVE had work done in CA
I have no idea who you mean then
I've gone to GTM and performance nissan, so not sure why you think I'd know who you're talking about??? I could only assume you were talking about GTM
you never came out and posted the name of the shop. Are we supposed to be psychic or something?
so what in your personal opinion should everyone do?
Perhaps we should all go to nebraska so we can have your top shop with extensive Z/G knowledge work on all our cars for $80/hr?
Your just making your self look like a fool !!!!!
And just in case you dont want to spend $120 hr , here is the shop I use
http://www.sstracing.com/sublimeweb/index.htm
Last edited by booger; Aug 10, 2007 at 01:04 PM.
oh booger, you should know by now I take most of the typical comments you say with a grain of salt
and ditto on the fool comment 
we're all glad you have a top notch shop in your area
We can all go around posting up prices of different parts and labor for all the different shops, but that won't stop people from buying parts from where they're more comfortable with or what's more convenient for them.
Not all of us want to make the drive to nebraska to a shop that might not offer products that a lot of people want.
I know if I went there, the drive would have been 3x as long and they're probably not an authorized dealer for a lot of Z/G products
and ditto on the fool comment 
we're all glad you have a top notch shop in your area
We can all go around posting up prices of different parts and labor for all the different shops, but that won't stop people from buying parts from where they're more comfortable with or what's more convenient for them.
Not all of us want to make the drive to nebraska to a shop that might not offer products that a lot of people want.
I know if I went there, the drive would have been 3x as long and they're probably not an authorized dealer for a lot of Z/G products
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Oh Sentry !!!! LOL I didnt ask you to come in here to start $hit , you chose to . You take what some one says and turn it into what you want it to mean . I know it , you know it...so ...who looks like what when you do it ?
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Originally Posted by blaukal
booger seems to be in a bad mood this week -- he's normally pretty helpful of a guy -- hang in there booger! "Old fart" doesn't have to equal crotchety!
hmm ok, well here's my posts up until you called me a GTM nut hugger and that I can't read:
...yup I sure was the one trying to start the arguing here
...yup I sure was the one trying to start the arguing here

Originally Posted by sentry65
labor is 85-100/hr at most good shops in AZ
in CA it can be up to 120/hr
in CA it can be up to 120/hr
Originally Posted by sentry65
the shop that I think you're referring to that charges around $200/hour is for dynoing which is in line with other shops I've gone to
and if it's who I think you mean, their normal labor rate was much lower, around the $120 mark which considering who they are and the resources they have, that's not too bad
I've never ever paid over $120/hour at any shop I've gone to
and if it's who I think you mean, their normal labor rate was much lower, around the $120 mark which considering who they are and the resources they have, that's not too bad
I've never ever paid over $120/hour at any shop I've gone to
Originally Posted by sentry65
Since this was directed towards me, I assumed you were refering to GTM since that's the only shop I've really been to in CA aside from Performance Nissan almost 3 years ago
Originally Posted by sentry65
hmm I could be wrong, but I thought the $13000 price tag included (at CA's higher hourly rate):
install EMS
initial tune/dyno time
diagnostic testing and troubleshooting
taking the engine out
taking the old engine apart
a new engine
engine install
new tune
not just:
taking the engine out
take apart engine and assemble built engine
a new engine
engine install
install EMS
initial tune/dyno time
diagnostic testing and troubleshooting
taking the engine out
taking the old engine apart
a new engine
engine install
new tune
not just:
taking the engine out
take apart engine and assemble built engine
a new engine
engine install
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