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Old 08-29-2007 | 03:53 PM
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Whats the talk between all of them. I've seen T/N kits with the reflash running 360-370rwhp. Then I've seen the utec and emanage get the job done as well with around the same HP.

I've been running my ST Turbonetics for about 10k miles with the reflash and no problem so far. I've never dynoed, however I plan to do so soon.

Ive seen a couple members running with the 380cc injectors on the reflash of course and utec/emanage with no problem as well.

I came from a vortech S/C kit and I put on 387rwhp /343tq with stock injectors.. (290cc) so how big do injectors actually make a role with the turbonetics kit and EMS?

My goal is to reach approx. 350-370rwhp with my turbonetics kit. Can I do this with the 380cc injectors?

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Old 08-29-2007 | 03:56 PM
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well if you wanna go bigger later id suggest utec.. but for 350-370 emanage should be good enough. but its honestly up to you.
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A lot of guys have done what you want with just the TN setup (MIAPLAYA and Taurran come to mind). I would not use an emanage unless it's the ultimate. The UTEC is a pretty nice setup for its price.
I think all of the mentioned will get the power levels you want. If it were me i would lean toward the UTEC.

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If price was an issue... well not mas much an issue but not as easy to come by as it is for other people will emanage do the job with the 380cc injectors?
Old 08-29-2007 | 08:32 PM
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Why don't you dyno at your current set up? You may already be at your goal range which is pretty common for TN kits w/ the reflash as long as they are properly installed & AF ratios are within range. Have been very happy w/ mine:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/174014-turbonetics-at-w-cat-by-danzio-worth-the-wait.html
Old 08-29-2007 | 10:04 PM
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To answer the question yes the 380s will be fine in the 380-400 WHP range. My car made as much as 390 WHP at 9 PSI on the same 380s that are in there now.
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Originally Posted by jlimquest
Why don't you dyno at your current set up? You may already be at your goal range which is pretty common for TN kits w/ the reflash as long as they are properly installed & AF ratios are within range. Have been very happy w/ mine:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174014

great numbers for AT keep me posted any new mods.. =)
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
To answer the question yes the 380s will be fine in the 380-400 WHP range. My car made as much as 390 WHP at 9 PSI on the same 380s that are in there now.

awesome, what ems you running utec?
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Isn't the turbonetics reflash just a Technosquare reflash??
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Originally Posted by 350zOnJuice
awesome, what ems you running utec?
I'm running the out of box Turbonetics reflash.
Old 08-30-2007 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Glex25
Isn't the turbonetics reflash just a Technosquare reflash??
Yes and no. While Turbonetics purchased the flash equipment from Technosquare the tune on the flash is to Turbonetics specifications. They worked with Technosquare to get the flash how they wanted it but all the flashing is done in house at Turbonetics.
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What all would one need to purchase if you have a Turbonetics kit with 550cc Injectors? I want to go with the UTEC (I think)...what else willl I need to purchase? I just want to make it as safe as possible.

Also, if any of you have any ideas what install of the kit +utec would cost (plus tuning) in the So Cal area I would really appreciate it. I just don't want to get ripped off.
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^^^ well thats pretty mush the setup I have. I would make sure you have a good set of gauges. I had a bad boost spiking problem so I got a EBC to and dropped to a smaller WG spring.

But Utec, bigger injectors, gauges, HEATWRAP everything, turbo blanket (worked great at keeping the temps down). If I think of anything else I add to this.

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Originally Posted by TayTaythatsme04
^^^ well thats pretty mush the setup I have. I would make sure you have a good set of gauges. I had a bad boost spiking problem so I got a EBC to and dropped to a smaller WG spring.

But Utec, bigger injectors, gauges, HEATWRAP everything, turbo blanket (worked great at keeping the temps down). If I think of anything else I add to this.

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Ok, excellent. But UTEC has everything I need (sensors or whatever)?

If I'm not overboosting I understand I wont need the WG spring?

I intend on a few gauges as well, but not sure which ones are necessary. I've posted many time about the turbonetics but its hard to find my old posts with so many different types of info.

My purchase is kind of in the works right now, and its happening very fast so I'm scurrying ot get everythign I need. Would $1500 be fair for install/tune for turbo + utec? Or am I being unrealistic?
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On top of the UTEC, you'll need a map sensor. There like 90 bucks or so.

You shouldn't really have any overboosting problems, but could happen. The wastegate already has a spring in it from TN. That's what actually controls boost levels. You have to have it in stock form or any form. The OP put a smaller spring, (softer) plus a EBC, because he was having over boosting. Which the EBC controls his boost electronically. Not sure about about the relationship of the type of spring you need to have when using a EBC a also. Which is a better means and safer source of boost control. He had to to do it on his system. Plus there's several other reason to have one. Just ask your tuner.

So far as gauges goes. I would recommend a boost, fuel, and a wideband.

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I got an extra 45whp from a UTEC and tune with 650cc injectors. I also replaced the TN wastegate with a 38mm Tial due to overboost problems, now boost holds ROCK solid at 8.5psi
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Originally Posted by diwun67
I got an extra 45whp from a UTEC and tune with 650cc injectors. I also replaced the TN wastegate with a 38mm Tial due to overboost problems, now boost holds ROCK solid at 8.5psi
I don't think your boost problems had anything to do with the wastegate. We've discussed it before and I seem to remember thinking it was a bad vaccuum line?

Anyway, the Evolution wastegate works fine on a stock boost setup, and I've rarely heard reports of any overboost issue with the new piping. Even those reports have been inconsistent.


To the OP -

My car dynod last year at 412whp/413tq on the 380cc injectors and reflash at 9.1PSI and a 100/93 octane mix. I dynod again right before I popped my motor and the car made something like 369whp with a horrible preturbine exhaust leak causing slower spool, running rich, and possibly some internal engine problems.

To answer your question - yes, those power levels are totally possible. I've seen many kits right out of the box at stock boost levels make 370-385whp with no other modifications (other than maybe an exhaust).
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Originally Posted by taurran
I don't think your boost problems had anything to do with the wastegate. We've discussed it before and I seem to remember thinking it was a bad vaccuum line?
Oh yeah I forgot about the little pin hole I found in the vacuum line
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Originally Posted by diwun67
Oh yeah I forgot about the little pin hole I found in the vacuum line
The problem never really made sense to me. I'd have to dig up the post to even remember the full discussion.


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