Ken-

If you are talking 7psi of super/turbocharger pressure you may be correct but manifold pressure is a different story. Since pressure is a measure of restriction a turbocharged car with 7psi in the manifold with intake/exhaust mods will be flowing more air then a stock intake and exhaust car with 7psi manifold. This is assuming it is a turbocharger with the wastegate based off of the manifold.

 

This is weird, because the exact same kit in Japan, on the auto gearbox makes 50whp over stock, and they stated that with a manual gearbox you should get another 10. (if i remember correctly)

 

Blah.. HKS is thumbs down.

They manufacture amazing parts for Skyline, Supra, etc and we get ****ty supercharger units that make weaksause power.. The turbo kit is nothing to sneeze at and is overpriced.

 

HKS is making a TT for US model VQ's. It isn't going to be a huge hp kit like APS extreme or JWT 830, but it will put out enough for most people.

 

Which is about what you'll get from NA bolt-ons.

 

Where did you hear this? Everything I have seen has said they are not going to offer the single or twin in the states...

 

Your very right. But with NA bolt-ons, that's it, you've reached the limit. With FI, swap the pulley and tune it, and you've got more power.

 

Fixed...

 

From the video I posted it looks like someone is make around 400whp with one. I just hope they have pulley options available right away so those that want more power can get it. Until someone can say for sure what the SC is capable of making this is all guessing*shrugs*

 

If the quality is there so what if the HKS TT cost more? The APS TT costs more than many of the kits available yet people still buy it. As well as the JWT kits.

 

I agree to an extent. But here is my opinion. Our cars are already past the 100% bolt-on FI kit stage, considering the options for EMS and fuel solutions. The two important factors in any new FI kit are quality of the hard parts and price. As you have mentioned, this is going to be designed for the power level most people use (what is it, about 500whp?). The current options (APS, JWT, etc) have proven themselves both in terms of performance, as well as long term reliability in that power range. What they do have over the HKS is the choice of EMS (not as much with JWT), thus giving the user a broader range of shops to take the car to. Somehow I seriously doubt that the HKS setup will come as a tuner kit. I think that this is just going to be a very exclusive kit that only few will use, kind of a baller item. Or maybe I'm wrong.

 

Oleg you make good points. the baller comment might be true to some extent, but some people may not like the design of the current kits and like the design of the new HKS kit. Price is important, but it isn't the only factor.

I don't like internal waste gates so I wouldn't want the APS kit. With the JWT I can't stand the intercoolers. I'd be willing to pay more for a kit that performs just as well as the APS and JWT, but that had external waste gates and didn't run dual intercoolers.

 

I actually overlooked the type of wastegate used when I was trying to make my point.

 

What's wrong with the design of the PE TT, APS TT, or JWT TT? All three uses water-cooled dual ball-bearing Turbos, are reliable, and are designed very well. JWT lacks a fuel system and injectors, get a CJM and HKS injectors and you're good to go, as well as a solid EMS for all three of these.

There are only so many ways to route pipes and make a TT kit . . . . unless HKS is going to give us VG Turbos or E-Turbos then why in the hell would I pay 10k for a HKS TT when I can get, say an APS for much less.

 

I'm sure you can get new IC's with the JWT kit . . .

 

I think what most of you are failing to remember is that, the price quoted above, is what it would cost if you bought it from HKS themselves, but we all know the shops do good deals, and usually sell them for a lot less than MSRP. HKS says 6500, i'll bet you'll be able to get it for around 5600-5800.

 

Also, who else noticed that the HKS Z in the article has a full size intercooler?

 

I did.

as well as what did the old kit put to the wheel? 350whp? that is easily 100whp over stock, so why would an improved model put out less HP than the older? doesn't make sense.

 

Agreed. I think something f'ed up in the translation.

 

bump- What's going on with this thing? Supposed to be out already, but nowhere to be found. Need info.

Btw I'm pretty sure it's about 340-360 whp.