Aps Extreme Vs Aps Tt
10-25-2007, 10:21 AM
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Aps Extreme Vs Aps Tt
Well most probably this is already mentioned before, but I want to know what it takes to upgrade our APS TT Kit to include the larger Turbos of Extreme Kit. Are the manifolds/Turbos/Wastegate combination going to do the job? What is going to be pricewise? I am happy with my IC/UTEC and AAM fuel return system.
10-25-2007, 11:32 AM
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Well most probably this is already mentioned before, but I want to know what it takes to upgrade our APS TT Kit to include the larger Turbos of Extreme Kit. Are the manifolds/Turbos/Wastegate combination going to do the job? What is going to be pricewise? I am happy with my IC/UTEC and AAM fuel return system.
the base TT will do 600+whp, you really need/want more than that? And if so, like I stated, you will want to run a better EMS and fuel system
10-25-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
basically you need the manifolds, turbos and dump pipes to do the conversion. I would think it would be at least 3-4 grand. I don't think your utec or fuel return will be enough to sustain the bigger turbos - at least not if you push them beyond what the base TT setup will do. And at that point, you may want to get the bigger FMIC... which I would think would make it most feasable to buy the entire kit new vs buying individual components
the base TT will do 600+whp, you really need/want more than that? And if so, like I stated, you will want to run a better EMS and fuel system
the base TT will do 600+whp, you really need/want more than that? And if so, like I stated, you will want to run a better EMS and fuel system
10-25-2007, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gecof1
Now I am at 403WHP on 9PSI. I am planning to go up to 14PSI and stop there. Our TT setup I believe that will not be sufficient. I am thinking about it though
heck I am running 15 psi right now and held back from going any further because it makes plenty of power. I think the turbos start loosing efficiency when you get up to 18-20 psi. at 14 psi you are right in the sweet spot for those turbos. You have a great combo of power and quick spool. IMHO you would be foolish to consider the extreme kit for 14 psi
10-25-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielW
+1 there's plenty of power to be had with the standard aps TT kit and it will spool faster than the extreme kit too.
10-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gecof1
Yes U R Right, though I believe the boost will last longer, and Turbos will be inside their working peak envelopes.
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10-25-2007, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil Z
Huh? Come again?
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10-25-2007, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil Z
Yeah do you really wanna push 20psi on a street car . . . . .
10-25-2007, 02:56 PM
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I rode in a 560whp Greddy TT car . . . . . it scared the **** out of me.
Our Turbos have less lag and can get up to 600whp like Ziv said. I don't think you will like the response of the Extreme's turbos.
Our Turbos have less lag and can get up to 600whp like Ziv said. I don't think you will like the response of the Extreme's turbos.
10-25-2007, 03:55 PM
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you should just try a 16psi tune and see what you make. Do you have headwork or cams? I'm sure that you could hit 600 whp on a DJ with cams and headwork
10-25-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gecof1
No my target is 600WHP. That's why I am asking. I am confused with all theese dynos and figures coming up from time to time in the forum. Anyways, I will max out my setup, to see where I am, and then I will decide.
With an aggressive set of cams, a big exhaust, and head studs and gaskets strong enough to keep your heads from lifting, and 17-18 psi you will have no problem hitting 600 on your kit. That said, you are probably getting towards the limits of your fuel system, and I would DEFINITELY recommend an EMS with a much higher resolution than the utec.
10-25-2007, 08:45 PM
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I actually missed the down low TQ of my APS standard kit.The extreme pulls really hard after 5k but it takes a while to spool up, and just does not have the same drivability i was used to with the standard kit. Not saying the extreme kit is not great, but it just feels totaly different.
10-25-2007, 08:53 PM
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I actually missed the down low TQ of my APS standard kit.The extreme pulls really hard after 5k but it takes a while to spool up, and just does not have the same drivability i was used to with the standard kit. Not saying the extreme kit is not great, but it just feels totaly different.
10-25-2007, 10:49 PM
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Well guys, Thanks alot,
I will stick with our set-up.
Yes I do have a fuel return system installed from AAM.
I have a fully built motor, with changed gaskets and studs.
The exhaust Pipes are changed to the true dual APS set-up 3".
I will max out the car to see where I can go and I will take it from there.
Thanks
George
I will stick with our set-up.
Yes I do have a fuel return system installed from AAM.
I have a fully built motor, with changed gaskets and studs.
The exhaust Pipes are changed to the true dual APS set-up 3".
I will max out the car to see where I can go and I will take it from there.
Thanks
George