Did we both take the same science class in high school?

 

Scott, are you being serious? After everything this board has been through with VRT??

Sure, the comparison you posted looks terrific. But are you saying that the 800whp+ numbers you and VRT stood behind (using a Split Second box) are not significantly higher than a typical DynoJet?? I dont think one person on this believes that. It really is an insult to all the legit shops that have been working for years..shooting for higher and higher power levels.

 

SO...like the OP asked ....did anyonr see a Vortech kit at SEMA for the HR motor ??????

 

Hey Scott,
Can you answer us a question..Actually 3 questions..
1) How did you manage to move the VQ35's Peak TQ and HP characteristics to not look like a VQ motor at all?

2)What is going on at around 4000-5000 Rpms on the Dyno jet? Is the clutch slipping or is the car detonating?

3)Whats with the 13 A/F ratio?? Was the O2 sensor going bad?

 

First of all. I can not, and will not speak for VRT and what has been claimed or done by that company in the past year and it is getting old that you and a select few are still trying to through us down in the whole with that company. Prior to '06 when Mark and I were still associated with that company the claims are 100% true whether you or anyone else want to believe them or not. Just because you and what you have learned in your 3 whole years of engine tuning/building skills have tought/shown YOU, doesn't mean that it has shown what is possible out of these VQ35's with the parts we use.
I have never claimed to have a 800+ whp dynoed car, show me where I said that. The most I have seen made personally on our motor builds (non-stroked, non sleeved) are 760whp on the 700BB kit.... yes, on the gray VRT G35 (which Mark built) and the (ugly) 749whp that we have made on our Double Down 350Z Time Attack car with the 850BB kit.
We have now, just tonight, completed the custom made JWT "Monster" cam install (which required us to machine clearance the heads and also make clearance for them in the valve covers to fit ) and we will be re-installing the motor (still with "stock" head studs & head gasket, split second box, and no return fuel system) and we will tune it with Jim and Clark on the JWT DynaPack. We will then be hurrying off to the Laguna Seca Redline Time Attack Finals with our new found (more usable) power..... hopefully`.
When we are finished with all the stress that these time attack finals and SEMA has brought on us and the customer work load gets cought up on, then we will probably run the car (still untouched) on a couple different (unbiased) duno's just for you.

BTW, Sharif. Nice clean job installing our RA built motor in Pete's (from BC Racing) G35. It turned out nice and I am sure it will make and continue to make good power for him

 

1) This car has a built motor with a 700BB kit. We installed S7 cams and did a H20/Meth injection kit along with a manual 2 stage boost controller, this is just how it came out, nothing to unusuall IMO.

2) I am pretty sure that what you are refering to is what the graph showed when the H20/Meth injection come on, that is where it was set at.

3) This particular car only has 410 injectors (for now) and this is obviously where it started running out of fuel with these injectors, otherwise we would have ran more than 16psi of boost on the high boost setting. This is where the limit seems to be with the way this car is untill the customer decides to upgrade his injectors.

 

Take your 749whp (without even trying) car to a Dynojet and post the results. That will shut us all up. When we set records in the past, we always took the cars to an indepedent dyno jet for confirmation. You should do the same, FWIW.

 

We will. But unfortunately it is not the highest priority. I realy doubt it will shut anyone up, or that we will get any apologies for all this drama, name calling, and mudslinging .

 

but +1 on indepedent dyno jet for confirmation


this was hilarious

 

The dyno from the Dyno Shop has different scales for the torque (100-500)and horsepower(0-600). This will throw off the way the graph appears. I don't know why some shops set up their graphs this way.

 

Yes, I know. It does get confusing sometimes and takes a bit longer to read.

 

here we go again

 

I agree. Last I checked this thread was about the Vortech and the Greddy kit on the HR motors at sema. Can we please not start up another jelousey tyraid against those that are excelling in the VQ developement? Jeez

 

Good point, I believe it went off topic on post #2.With this reply
Then it proceeded to a technical discussion here on post #6 here, where someone made a false and misinformed statement about the Greddy turbos.
Then on post #10 it became a flame fest imho, which opened it up to debate of the posted comments.

Then on post #17 it became an open thread for debate as someone made another grand stand attempt to clear themselves and make statements completely off topic..

As a result of the last above quoted statment, a few people had some questions and comments to retort to in a scientific and well articulated debateable fashion. As a result of debate, the entire 350z community learns and grows. Some people however feel it is a continuous jab at them, when its not. Some clarification is simply requested on some issues, and when it is,the questions are avoided and the bashing card is played. This is getting old imho.

 

I miss the old flame fests in the FI section.

The posts in here have been rather dull in the last 2 weeks!

 

+1
FTW!!! lol

+1 on getting back on topic

the OT on this thread was..u gotta admit funny how quickly it went OT...... didnt even make it on topic more than the very 1st post lol

 

Back on topic..........I'll talk to vortech at the PRI show in mid december.........

Until then,.........back to off-topic.

 

I am starting to loose respect for a few vendors on this site constant whining about VRT. This guy has nothing to do with them. So get that through your damn heads and leave it alone. If you have a problem, take it to PM or leave the site.

 

im pretty sure this guy asked about the Vortech, not the Greddy. Thank you.