Did anyone see the Vortech kit for the HR motor at SEMA??

 

I saw the Greddy Twin Turbo for HR motor... Greddy rep said it will be out in Feb/March.

 

Any major differences from the DE kit other than piping?

 

If you're asking about the Greddy kit then nope it looks to still use the 18g's no bov, emanage etc.

 

The GReddy kit is the same other than piping and intercooler.

 

The HR kit is pretty much the same kit as the DE, same pre-historic mitsubishi 18g turbo's too.......unfortunately.
After talking to them for some time there at SEMA, I will be getting a HR Greddy TT kit here pretty soon (about 3 weeks) to install on a customers car that is a big Greddy fan. Realy, the guy has more Greddy parts that I never even knew they made.

 

hmmm.......must be the same prehistoric turbos that make more power than the JWT 550 & 700 kits and also more than the APS kits. ...and the same prehistoric turbos that easily hit 10 psi before 3000 rpm.

 

so greddy isn't releasing until next year, but this customer of yours gets it in a couple weeks? not fair :-(

 

more than 700bb?????? are you sure ?

 

Not the case

Hahaha. Ummm, Alot of people on this forum seem to be misinformed, or mislead. Lets try not to pick on any of them or single anyone out.

 

No, I just have a customer who is Greddy crazzy, he has everything they make, I swear. This customer is planning on turboeing his new Z. I have talked to Greddy and they agreed to get me out a kit a little early for this car.

 

+1

 

Those turbos ARE prehistoric. Doesn't mean they're not good, just that there's better out there.

And the GReddy kit does NOT have more power potential than the APS Extreme kit.

 

why are these turbos so prehistoric? because they don't have ball bearings? you crank, rods, and cams seems to be spinning just fine without ball bearings. Ball bearings are nice, but having them doesn't necessarily make it a better turbo than one without them.

 

I don't remember every post on these boards, but I recall the Greddys being able to put down close to 700rwhp on some legit dynos. I would have to assume that the JWT 850s and the APS Exteme have more capacity than the greddy though.

Please don't quote any dyno numbers from the VRT/Jim Wolf dyno. I believe it has been established that that particular dyno gives some very optimistic numbers.

 

the mitsu 18g's are sick turbos and have chacteristics that FLAWLESSLY suit the VQ35 in any street application below 700rwhp. the response is perfect, not laggy at all, but nice and OEM feeling, very quick... the ball bearings in the APS kit dont spool any faster at all... on the same dyno with similiar setups i have seen them with my own eyes spool essentially identical. ball bearings = hype. i wouldnt even worry about ball bearings until we are talking about large turbos.

now i just wish i didnt have an old junky '03 ... the VQ gets so much nicer every year or two its unfair. I would love to upgrade to a HR powerplant. The new guys are in for a treat.

 

First of all, VRT and Jim Wolf HAVE NOTHING to do with eachother, nor have they had any dealings with eachother for quite some time now. The fact that VRT ended up the way they did had NOTHING to do with JWT AT ALL, and I will go on record still that all of the dyno sessions that I have had to do with at JWT or otherwise are for real and legit, whether you all want to except that or not. Can you all get over it already. I personally am so sick of JWT's DynaPack being billed as not legit. I am not, nor will not speak for VRT, but I have, severall times tuned and dynoed cars on both dyno's, sometimes we have even taken the same car and dynoed it on a trusted Dyno Jet the same day, same boost levels, fuel, etc, and have gotten VERY similer numbers (always within 5%) with the Dyno Jet being the higher numbers of the two about half the time.

Here is an example of the last car we did a comparison on......

Same car, same boost levels (14 & 16psi), same tune, same fuel, same time of day and temperature, same everything.



Can we give it a rest already, thanks

back on topic.

 

I agree with you Charles! Ball Bearings come into play on those monster turbos seem in the Outlaw Street and Pro Street classes.

as a totally unscientific experiment, I hand spun both a Greddy 18G and a Turbonetcs kit turbo. Greddy uses the sleeve bearings and the TN uses ball bearings. the greddy easily out spun the TN turbo. I was surprised as so many people had bashed the Mitsu/Greddys as being old fashioned and slow to spool.

 

thats a great scientific test. kinda like the other day , we were testing to see if the rev up oil pump actually flows more oil than the 287 pump. we had two cars and turned them over for a second while holding the oil feed line off the turbo aimed out at the parking lot. WOW!! the rev up oil pump actually shot the oil about ten more feet

 

WOW! How scientific