It looks like everyone was busy looking at turbos. Well...OK I looked at some too. There was no 07 HR Vortech kit at SEMA, but lots of cars and trucks there with our kits on them. OK now you guys can go back off topic.

--Frank

 

Sorry to continue with the OT, but I just have to say something here.

Sharif: When will you figure out that Scott does not care about this as much as the rest of you do? He has MUCH bigger things of MUCH greater importance than play your childish games and prove you wrong. He is busy busy busy busy and does not have the luxury of an in-house dyno to use. He isn't shooting for records, he is trying to build a race car.

Back on topic.

 

You are hilarious...really you are. Stop trying to instigate a response from me. Scott apparently has plenty of time to post, about all things he is doing...so lets just leave it at that please.

 

Have you ever heard the expression that "you are only as good as the company you keep"? When VRT was posting up all those inflated HP claims (going back about 2 years), I'm pretty sure that WA2GOOD was the head tech at VRT. He may have later parted ways, but the VRT connection lingers in many peoples memories. I'm sure that reputable shops like Forged and MRC don't take "smoke and mirrors" marketing lightly.

 

yah
scott need to do independent dyno tests and show proof of this i agree with that given the "aura of trust" that unfortunantly comes from vrt -- ...
I do wonder why a lot of the poeople that call him out all the time ...that made it to sema... didnt wanna take a lil time and settle this once and for all when scott offered to have an inderpendet dyno test with all of them present at the same time...
I know personally sincity350z who mentioned this...but got little interest

 

Just to clarify, they were not going to test Scott's claimed 749whp car. They were going to tune Pete's G35 with the stock head bolts and stock gasket and stock main bolts, to show it could make 500whp on the dyno.

 

That is not true. Mike has offered to you, and many other shops to test the car, they've all declined. I'm not trying to instigate anything from you, I am trying to get you to get off Scott and mind your own business. Even with all the **** that you've said to him, Scott still continues to not stoop to your level.

 

You are correct ..it was petes g35 engine...
but they said its basically the same engine setup that can handle almost 600whp(it think,,if not more, not bothering to dig the exact quote) on the jwt dyno so would that had accomplished 2 things...
Dont get me wrong sharif I have my doubts just as you(ive told this to sincity350z, even thoguh he is my friend), dont get me wrong, but that was a chance not jsut for you, to finally call out into a lie or get proven wrong(depending on the result ovbiously) of 2 "issues".. the dyno numbers and engine capabilities claims. I dont intend this as an attack or anything, i hope you dont feel that way...it wasnt just you who calls out scott that was also at sema that had the same chance.....

 

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....308955&page=12

Post #238 dated 10/19/2007 @ 2:43pm

And I quote...

"Before it gets locked... Is anybody for real interested in doing that dyno after SEMA? I called Sharif earlier today to try and coordinate and plan this event with him, but he informed me that he doesn't want to be a part of it. If nobody cares enough to actually show up then I am not going to bother planning it.

I view it as a good opportunity to put any doubts about this motor to rest as well as an opportunity for people to look first hand at the time attack car instead of making claims about what it does and does not have without actually ever seeing it.

And to make it better for you all, the test will also be on a DynoJet because NASA is too busy re-configuring Jim's "Moon" Dyno . The time attack car will also be dynoed on the same dynojet for all to see.

Anybody? Julian? Sam? Phil? We already know Sharif is out."

I rest my case your honor.

 

bring a 750rwhp Z/G to chicago and I will dyno it on a dynojet, no charge.

 

I must have missed the part about testing the Time Attack car. On the phone, we ONLY talked about testing/tuning Pete's car, so that could be part of the confusion. My appologies. Either way, I didn't feel the need to be there...I was busy enough at SEMA. A DJ number is all anymore is looking for. Whether I am there or is irrelevant.

Quicksilver, I understand your point, and no disrespect was taken. VRT had years to show us a 700whp-800whp DJ, and they never did it. Relenteless has had months to do it, and they havent. Sure, you could make the argument that they are busy building race cars...terrific....but then don't continue posting and supporting the BS dyno numbers. Just go about your business, and that's that. I am sick of the marketing fluff, and exaggeration with any type of legitimate support.

 

No, I brought it up to you on the phone as well, but I guess that will be your word against mine. It wasn't our idea to do this after SEMA dyno thing but we were more than willing to set it up. Here's our issue... If we went out of our way to get an independent dynojet on the time attack car and if none of the nay sayers are there to witness it then you guys are going to complain that the dyno is rigged or something. Then if we prove you wrong on that, then we will post up the results proving you wrong, that thread will get no apologies, no replies, and be forgotten in a matter of days. Or you guys will get back onto the stock head studs/gasket thing and start beating on that. Then if we prove that wrong, again, no replies, no apologies, and it will be forgotten. Then down the road, Scott will build another car, post dyno numbers and it will start all over again. Its like the story of the teacher who gets accused of raping a student and the story gets printed on the front page of every newspaper across the nation. Then they go to trial and the girl admits she was lying and he was found innocent, and they print that story in a short column on the back page in between a bunch of ads.

At first everybody wanted a comparison between a DynoJet and the JWT dyno. Scott provided that with the black G35, you can see the difference there. Since the numbers were close the attention was then focused to nit picking the way the graph and the air/fuel looked. And now the attention is focused on the time attack car. It will always be something with you guys. How about taking the percentage difference from the above dyno comparison, apply it to the 749whp JWT dyno, and assume thats where it would be around on a DynoJet?

Can anybody see why Scott isn't so anxious to jump through a million hoops for you guys? Scott has no reason to believe that it will ever end. There are no un-happy Relentless Autosports customers, no proven flaws in the way they build their motors, you have a DynoJet vs. JWT comparison, and we even tried to set up a time where everybody would be in the same place at the same time to look at the cars and watch them get dynoed first hand. Instead of worrying about what everybody else is doing lets please just go back to worrying about our own things and let the actual customers speak for themselves. For instance, I am going to go now and worry about making lap times instead of dyno numbers.

You can't punish someone for a crime that has not been committed so please everybody go back to caring only about what your shops build. Thats all Scott cares about and thats why he has a bunch of happy customers.

 

Yea and so what! Let it go! He now runs another business, let him have his chance to prove himself instead of not letting go VRT history here. Shariff is only hurting himself and MRC here. The more you do this, the more people will turn away from you.

 

The only hurdle I can forsee with any HR vortech would be a fitment/pluming issue (aside from the fueling/ems). The newest HR platform cars will be even more difficult to route cost effectively w/o any rubbing.

 

pics of supercharge ( i don't have any i idea how makes them ) anon HR engine.

 

Nice find! Who's the manufacturer? See what I mean about the plumbing...and your only seeing on top! Z car, right?

 

nice find... finally back on topic lol

 

The engine cover has something written on it at the top! Maybe the name of it?

 

that supercharger has a clutched drive pulley. interesting......