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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Yea i mean I'd like to do everything within my ability before I go to a shop but thanks for the info, do you have their contact info?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lve2xlr8
Yea i mean I'd like to do everything within my ability before I go to a shop but thanks for the info, do you have their contact info?
http://home.earthlink.net/~spchurch/...sting/id2.html
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Just for a laugh. are you running a # 6 Plug ???...Check color. Chk your vacuum at all points for accuation. Including Plenum for Bottom Line Vac. Stock Injs. should be fine with that pulley

These are cheap Checks
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Dude you can't run a 3.12 pulley with stock injectors, at least I don't think. Get yourself some 440cc's and re-tune.

Yes you can, I am on stock injectors and I keep my airfuels in the high 10's at redline.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Vash350Z
Yes you can, I am on stock injectors and I keep my airfuels in the high 10's at redline.
Ditto for mine
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Here it is again... As you can see the air fuel is horribly lean...

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Some people had received faulty SS Box before, you might want to check that out if everything else are fine.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by S12 driver
Some people had received faulty SS Box before, you might want to check that out if everything else are fine.
Well SS is the one that tuned it and they said the box was fine..
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vash350Z
Yes you can, I am on stock injectors and I keep my airfuels in the high 10's at redline.
When you come back up for The Run, you and I need to go for a little run
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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So I just went under the car and checked all the vacuum lines, they didnt seem to be very tight on the nipples (har har) so I zip tied all of them and went for a ride and it feels much better... I'm gonna take it in tomorrow to have another dyno run to see if it's better...

Crosses fingers...
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by diwun67
When you come back up for The Run, you and I need to go for a little run
I think we can make that happen.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CUxtopher
do you have the 3.33 pulley? itd be best to put it on and then tune it.

there are plenty of people who would want a 3.12 pulley.

Yeah, STOCK injectors on a 3.12 pulley? No wonder you are running lean.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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I had the same problem with a rev-up and unichip. I ditched the AUX pump and FMU for an in tank walbro 255, UTEC and 440cc injectors. Now i'm both rich and poor
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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so that was all it was!!! Car is running good now ex getting momentary losses of power above 110mph in 5th at wot
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lve2xlr8
so that was all it was!!! Car is running good now ex getting momentary losses of power above 110mph in 5th at wot
So, I'm guessing one of your vacuum lines was loose and the SS box was reading no or little boost and therefore not turning on the aux pump even though you were boosting.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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I would question the tuner why he continued the dyno pull with A/F going into the 18's... WOT and under boost!

He should have aborted the run long before that.

You're lucky you still have an engine.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
I would question the tuner why he continued the dyno pull with A/F going into the 18's... WOT and under boost!

He should have aborted the run long before that.

You're lucky you still have an engine.

Yea my thoughts exactly
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Ping may also have a lot to do with your HP going down so rapidly. Its well below 200HP at 6500 RPM? That's very low even if it was NA.

I'll bet heavy inaudible knock was hammering your engine above 5K RPM on the dyno. An A/F of 18 is about as bad as can be. Even if NA, 18 is high enough that it guarantees a very high ping rate, yet the ratio is low enough that there is still a lot of shock energy released in each knock. ...A nice optimum for knock. From a fuel/air explosive chemistry point of view, an A/F of 18 will ensure a high velocity and brissant shock wave.

Regardless, the dyno operator should have known to stop the run.

You probably shouldn't go back to that shop. And tell your friends to stay away from there too.
Even if latent damage to your engine is small or non-existant, the operator ran your engine through a risky mode of operation. Why take a risk like that?

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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The drop of power was due to a lack of fuel and most likely some detonation.The car simply did not have enough fuel to make the power asked of it. PROVIDING the belt was NOT SLIPPING on the dyno run, we have seen belts slip above 5000rpms and cause the car to go lean due to falling backward in the mapping to lower cell points.
However I 100% agree with Tony, as soon as the tuner saw it going the slightest bit lean, time to ABORT.Anyone who stays in it as either stupid, or REALLY stupid.. My advice,find anothe rtuner and give your car a REALLY good once over, something as minimal as a loose vacume line or wire, can cause engine failure. I suggest finding a shop that specializes in 350Z's or, believe it or not, Mustangs. Most mustangs have blowers and a shop familiar with them should be very familiar with a Vortech and Procharger set up and tune..
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