IntensePower w/ PowerLab Single Turbo Kit Stage 1.5 GT37R / ProEFI ECU Makes 706RWHP
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
You just have to think about your driving habits, and were your cars RPM's are most of the time. If your on the highway in 5th or 6th gear; you're rpm's should be right around 3000-3200 rpm.... so if you it the gas you should have instant response. The advantage, in my own opinion, is with twins you have better response in the bottom end and from a stand still.
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Yea I'm way more into highway rolls then dead stops. Now I'm debating GT37R or GT35R
#63
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
almost all the baller supras run big single turbos and the VQ with a big single outperforms the 2jz ......more displacement....better heads....
to each their own ... it all depends on the applicaion one looks...
to each their own ... it all depends on the applicaion one looks...
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
(I keep reminding myself that all monster drag cars run big singles)
you have to look at the class rules in drag racing. Alot of classes only allow "single power adders." that's why you see alot of single turbo cars.
If you go to the "top" classes, you'll see more twin turbo cars. Also, the single turbo cars running in the top classes usually get a weight break compared to those running twins.
for example, in the NMRA Pro 10.5W class, TT race cars have the largest weight penalty (100 pounds over a single turbo car.) also, the twi cars can run up to an 88mm turbo, whereas the single turbo cars can run up to a 106mm turbo.
It is very hard to truly compare twins versus singles when looking at purpose built pro drag cars. Since they have rules to follow (designed to level the playing fields), you can't make a blanket statement that big singles make more power.
Last edited by QuadCam; 04-06-2008 at 06:13 AM.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
the faster ones run bigger twins......
you have to look at the class rules in drag racing. Alot of classes only allow "single power adders." that's why you see alot of single turbo cars.
If you go to the "top" classes, you'll see more twin turbo cars. Also, the single turbo cars running in the top classes usually get a weight break compared to those running twins.
you have to look at the class rules in drag racing. Alot of classes only allow "single power adders." that's why you see alot of single turbo cars.
If you go to the "top" classes, you'll see more twin turbo cars. Also, the single turbo cars running in the top classes usually get a weight break compared to those running twins.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
the faster ones run bigger twins......
you have to look at the class rules in drag racing. Alot of classes only allow "single power adders." that's why you see alot of single turbo cars.
If you go to the "top" classes, you'll see more twin turbo cars. Also, the single turbo cars running in the top classes usually get a weight break compared to those running twins.
for example, in the NMRA Pro 10.5W class, TT race cars have the largest weight penalty (100 pounds over a single turbo car.) also, the twi cars can run up to an 88mm turbo, whereas the single turbo cars can run up to a 106mm turbo.
It is very hard to truly compare twins versus singles when looking at purpose built pro drag cars. Since they have rules to follow (designed to level the playing fields), you can't make a blanket statement that big singles make more power.
you have to look at the class rules in drag racing. Alot of classes only allow "single power adders." that's why you see alot of single turbo cars.
If you go to the "top" classes, you'll see more twin turbo cars. Also, the single turbo cars running in the top classes usually get a weight break compared to those running twins.
for example, in the NMRA Pro 10.5W class, TT race cars have the largest weight penalty (100 pounds over a single turbo car.) also, the twi cars can run up to an 88mm turbo, whereas the single turbo cars can run up to a 106mm turbo.
It is very hard to truly compare twins versus singles when looking at purpose built pro drag cars. Since they have rules to follow (designed to level the playing fields), you can't make a blanket statement that big singles make more power.
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Doesn't it also make a difference which engine they are on? A supra has a straight 6, so a single makes sense b/c the piping is straight forward and goes directly to the turbo without having many bends. With our V6 engine we have two banks, so wouldn't twins be the most efficient way to recieve the exhaust? i.e. a y pipe connecting the two banks into a single turbo could create turbulance, reducing the speed at which the air enters the turbine?
Just a question, not sure if the theory is correct or not, but would like to know what others think.
Just a question, not sure if the theory is correct or not, but would like to know what others think.
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it all depends on teh sizing of the piping....so if its properly sized dont have to worry about turbulance...
In the end, to each their own really..depending on the application, but 1ZweetZ is right: "The fastest cars ran singles in sport compact racing."
In the end, to each their own really..depending on the application, but 1ZweetZ is right: "The fastest cars ran singles in sport compact racing."
#71
Originally Posted by tig488
the lag isnt THAT bad. its not supra lag.
at 5k youve got 400whp and your head is still being forced into the headrest. its got a little more lag than the twin kits, but it makes more power.
at 5k youve got 400whp and your head is still being forced into the headrest. its got a little more lag than the twin kits, but it makes more power.
What tt kit has less lag and gives more power than then the pl 37r kit your talking about?
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Originally Posted by 1ZweetZ
This is NOT correct... first redundant power adders don't count twice... I.E. twin turbo is still a single power adder. The fastest cars ran singles in sport compact racing. The reason the mustangs and big motor cars run twins is because they don't really make a single turbo big enough for those engines that will still fit in the car. Single's are more efficient than twins because there is more loss around two turbine wheels than there is around one.
Originally Posted by killag35
What tt kit has less lag and gives more power than then the pl 37r kit your talking about?
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
Singles are going to have lag, but I politely disagree on the not having that much usable powerband