Injected Performance Cosworth Inlet Manifold REVIEW
Originally Posted by Jay'Z
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiheece!! Numbers dont convince me to spend 1k for that though......
looks like a normal or spacer gain on a rev up engine where top end power is traded to make more overall midrange power. The thing is, you can probably make anything make more midrange power on a rev up engine
if a FI dyno was posted, people would still want to see a NA dyno
IMO the factory plenum design is already pretty decent and flowtested etc. To really make power at and above 7k rpms, I think you're going to have to start making some trade offs just like nissan had to make for their rev up lower plenum design.
the "coffin" SSR manifold is all about top end power but trades off lots of low/midrange to get it
if a FI dyno was posted, people would still want to see a NA dyno
IMO the factory plenum design is already pretty decent and flowtested etc. To really make power at and above 7k rpms, I think you're going to have to start making some trade offs just like nissan had to make for their rev up lower plenum design.
the "coffin" SSR manifold is all about top end power but trades off lots of low/midrange to get it
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
I have to agree there. Plenum spacer seems to net similar gains so far.
So if the Spacers works better for the NA cars...haaa...you just saved some money.
I am quite sure the people that have no intension of spending 1K on this thing is going to come on here and talk it down and pray to God that it does not get the 17 whp it stated
Originally Posted by XKR
If I am not mistaken....didnt someone mention that a Cosworth Rep said that this plenum was design more for the FI cars
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
I'm pretty sure Cosworth isn't making this specifically for FI apps. They have to cater to the masses which means NA.
I will look for the post from the person that spoke to the SEMA rep.....I am not saying only for the FI...but they said FI would see better results !
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Originally Posted by XKR
I am quite sure the people that have no intension of spending 1K on this thing is going to come on here and talk it down and pray to God that it does not get the 17 whp it stated
Even if bang for the buck is not on par with a spacer, this manifold just built a new nich in the show circuit. Bling with gains.
1) It looks much better than stock. So some people will want it for no other reason.
2) Based on this dyno. Unlike the SSV, it actually works. So there is no reason for people to hate or bash.
3) If it makes even more gains when FI, or if it makes usable gains in a way that a spacer or plenum can't, it will be respected and accepted. (even if most people won't, or cant, spend that much money.)
So it has a new nich.
It would take a string of bad dynos, from multiple independant people, for a SSV situation to happen.
And (very importantly) the posted dyno plot was done with a Haltech engine management system. The Haltech makes certainty of the test results much more reliable. IE - the ECU's random variability was taken out of the equation....These dyno plots are therefore certaint and reliable.
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
I don't think that is going to happen.
Even if bang for the buck is not on par with a spacer, this manifold just built a new nich in the show circuit. Bling with gains.
1) It looks much better than stock. So some people will want it for no other reason.
2) Based on this dyno. Unlike the SSV, it actually works. So there is no reason for people to hate or bash.
3) If it makes even more gains when FI, or if it makes usable gains in a way that a spacer or plenum can't, it will be respected and accepted. (even if most people won't, or cant, spend that much money.)
So it has a new nich.
It would take a string of bad dynos, from multiple independant people, for a SSV situation to happen.
And (very importantly) the posted dyno plot was done with a Haltech engine management system. The Haltech makes certainty of the test results much more reliable. IE - the ECU's random variability was taken out of the equation....These dyno plots are therefore certaint and reliable.
Even if bang for the buck is not on par with a spacer, this manifold just built a new nich in the show circuit. Bling with gains.
1) It looks much better than stock. So some people will want it for no other reason.
2) Based on this dyno. Unlike the SSV, it actually works. So there is no reason for people to hate or bash.
3) If it makes even more gains when FI, or if it makes usable gains in a way that a spacer or plenum can't, it will be respected and accepted. (even if most people won't, or cant, spend that much money.)
So it has a new nich.
It would take a string of bad dynos, from multiple independant people, for a SSV situation to happen.
And (very importantly) the posted dyno plot was done with a Haltech engine management system. The Haltech makes certainty of the test results much more reliable. IE - the ECU's random variability was taken out of the equation....These dyno plots are therefore certaint and reliable.
OK....if you say so....but it has already started...
