Well most of people use Windshield washer since dis contain Meth and Distilled water mix. You basically need to find the right Washer coz the mix changes on the weather it is intended for use.

Here's a post from AIS...



Now that I think about it... Since Heet is used as a Gas Treatment and it is pure Methanol then will Heet Boost your Octane Rating?

 

yh, it should increase your octane a bit. I don't think enough to right home about

 

Nitrous make more power by adding oxygen to the cylinder and making a hotter burn. Methanol makes power by boosting octane rating of the fuel in the comustion chamber. Both require a tune to take full advantage of them... Which is better while using race gas? Id go with nitrous because I only need so much octane...

 

methanol boosts octane levels to control the preignition that comes with higher cyl pressures and heat. The injection method that was touched on adds octane and water to lower combustion temps allowing you to add more cyl prssure to create more power

 

can anyone comment on this?

 

I know... Nitrous and water both have a cooling effect to lower combustion temps. Any bets on which is a better coolant??? Major difference in the two is how to tune to make power power, Water/Meth is more of a safety measure while nitrous is more of a raw power adder...

 

"T"ing off a bottle of n2o would be bad for 2 reasons.
For one: The nitrous going to the inter-cooler sprayer will pass through & uncontrollably flow into your intake like a dry shot.
Two: The bottle will freeze very fast & bottle pressure would be very difficult to control.

Now, using the IC sprayer as a purge. Then making sure the bottle temp is good for a run could be beneficial.

 

It has been too long since I have been out of chemistry class and I really have no interest in running nitrous, so I did little to no research on this. If I was to bet, I would agree that the cooling affects of nitrogen in the air fuel mixture. What happens to the nitrogen and water after the combustion process? Water will not burn but will turn to steam to continue to cool through the exhaust. What will the nitrogen do after the oxygen is burned?

 

what about using nitro methane as part of the injection mix .

this should bring more air into the combustion process.

I have used this mix on my astra turbo but not on the Z hopefully once we finalise the build and tune we can do some more testing with niro methane and see if there are any significant benefits.

 

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exactly right...you need another solenoid in the mix to control both. One reason the purge solenoid is a good canidate for this job. Hold the button down until the intercooler is frozen. lol.

 

minimal gains without high concentration and does not like h2o,would also need stainless resevoir and better pump valves due to caustic nature.

 

For just an intercooler sprayer, has anybody looked into the CO2 setups rather than using Nitrous?

http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=5

Same basic principle but using CO2 instead of NO which is a lot cheaper and generally easier to refill. Wondering if it would be more cost effective in the long run, especially if you are aggressive with the intercooler sprayer to have 2 separate systems rather than running additional solenoids and using more nitrous?

 

i would not want to spray anything near my air filters that replaces o2 and puts out fire.just a thought,no science behind it,but i say no.

 

Problem is that CO2 doesn't ignite, this can be a problem when some of it goes in your engine.

 

im new to all of this but i thought that the intercooler was sealed and if u sprayed anything on it itd just make it cold and nothing would be able to get in but if im wrong please explain b/c im confused thank you

 

IMO co2 isn't as useful.
You'll have to have a setup just like a n2o setup(bottle,solenoids,bottle opener,warmer,switches,etc..). Running TT with n20 & co2 would be ridiculous IF that's what you're saying.
Why not just use n20 if you are going to spray?
Using these combinations would only be ideal for the drag strip/street as the bottle always empties/cools sooner than you want it to.
If you're at the drag, might as well have a separate manual n20 sprayer while you stage the car so you can keep the bottle in the vehicle nice & toasty
Jeez shrtkid935 I thought everybody knew how a IC works. J/K
The IC is sealed but air flows through it to cool the pressurized air exiting the compressors. The air filters for the compressors are located next to/behind the IC depending on which kit you have. If you spray while driving, there is a good chance the gas will flow to the filters because of the suction they are producing (causing a "dry shot" simulation).

 

so u can route the purge kit to the intercooler? i like that idea

 

found what i was looking for...i like this as it gives me room to add a sub box..

 

That's where I was going back and forth. If you have a designated bottle and sprayer why not use C02? If its all based off one system, its definitely nitrous, but I guess I'm trying to figure out how often you would spray the intercooler if you had a standalone setup for that and how quickly the bottle would be tapped.

If I go to a local shop by me, nitrous refills are $6 a lb. CO2 refills are $1.50 - $2 per lb and there a lot more locations that can fill a tank. So on a 10 lb tank, you're saving $40 per fill. Is it feasible to spray your intercooler so much that you do 5-10 fills per year? Trying to gauge because if you did, that's $200-400 a year savings which quickly covers the cost of the seconday setup, particularly if you're only spraying the intercooler or doing a show purge and not looking for nitrous as a power adder.

I agree that getting C02 in the intake tract is bad, but if you're spraying the intercooler in a staging lane at the track or while stopped on the street, I think the risk is minimal unless your intake is down by the intercooler pathways.

Really just curious about some of the alternatives because I don't have any experience with nitrous and am starting to research.