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Old 04-10-2008, 10:41 PM
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For anyone running Water/Meth injection.. Can you guys possibly post up some pics of your reservoir mounting spot?

Having a ***** of a time finding a suitable place to mount mine.
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Just use your windshield washer tank. It is over a gallon and you can use washer fluid for you meth injection and your windows.
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
Just use your windshield washer tank. It is over a gallon and you can use washer fluid for you meth injection and your windows.
Ive heard mixed things about using Washer fluid.. Hence why i was going to run 50/50 real meth and distilled water..

Anyone else think its a good idea?
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I was actually told by a rep from snow performance to do this today. You could also fill your washer tank up with boost juice from them if you want the 50/50.
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If that's the case thats exactly what I'll do. Save alot of hasels.. Just avoid anything with glycol from what I read.
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the lower the temp rating of the washer fluid, the more methanol content it has. Google it. you can find the percentages. The lowest temp fluid has approx 60% meth in it!!
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
I was actually told by a rep from snow performance to do this today. You could also fill your washer tank up with boost juice from them if you want the 50/50.
Yes, but does boost juice leave a streak-free shine on the windshield?
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
the lower the temp rating of the washer fluid, the more methanol content it has. Google it. you can find the percentages. The lowest temp fluid has approx 60% meth in it!!

The lowest I can find in NY is -34F Windshield Washer and that only contain 35%-40% Meth (They also contain Detergent ). If you buy the small bottle of Prestone De-Icer (Not the Windshiled Washer) then it is around 70% Meth. I have looked at the MSDS file of those Windshield Washer and their mix is base on Volume and not by weight, so technically they have much lower Meth mix in them. You have to mix Meth and Water by Weight coz Meth is lighter than Water. My friend has been using the Prestone -34F Windshield Washer for years without any problem though.
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As long as I tune for the washer fluid and stick to the same one I should be good. The injection is only for when Im on the spray to help keep things safe.. Save me retarding timing any or less.
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Originally Posted by BabyZiLLa
As long as I tune for the washer fluid and stick to the same one I should be good. The injection is only for when Im on the spray to help keep things safe.. Save me retarding timing any or less.

Yes, the consistency of the mix is more important than the actual mix %. Since you are in Canada, you'll probably have access to lower than -34F. The lower the temp the more Meth mix it has but make sure check the MSDS file of that specific washer or call the company.

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Originally Posted by athenG
Yes, the consistency of the mix is more important than the actual mix %. Since you are in Canada, you'll probably have access to lower than -34F. The lower the temp the more Meth mix it has but make sure check the MSDS file of that specific washer or call the company.
MSDS? Sorry I don't even know what that is? A break down of the chemicals? Other than no glycol what am I looking for?
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Originally Posted by BabyZiLLa
MSDS? Sorry I don't even know what that is? A break down of the chemicals? Other than no glycol what am I looking for?

Pretty much all windshield washer fluid has glycol so don't go crazy looking for one that don't have it. MSDS file are usually published and you can search them on the Internet. It will tell you the the breakdown of the mix they have, or just call them directly and ask them what are the exact mix. My concern is that Meth go stale over time so if they are not careful storing them then you might get a bad batch.
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Great info mate.. So lowest glycol count I can find. And i should be buying from a high volume store to try eliminate getting a batch that's been sitting for 6 months.

Going to go check out some brands this afternoon then see what I can find.
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I wondered that too Craig, has anyone out there used boost juice on their windows? The one good thing about it would be the consistency always being 50/50 but I was also hoping to find some windshield washer fluid of a 50/50 or so mix and just buy a ****load of it at a $1 a gallon or so. Boost Juice is $26 for 4 gallons plus shipping.
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Yes, but does boost juice leave a streak-free shine on the windshield?

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Would there really be a difference in power if say you went for a 50% meth mix to a 35% or even 25% meth mix? Is the timing able to be advanced because of the lower air temp or the higher octane rating (meaning that a 35% meth solution sprayed with pump gas would have a lower overall octane rating then a 50% solution) or is it a combination of both of these factors? I have read the whole water / meth Q & A and everyone seems to have different opinions on this.

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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
I wondered that too Craig, has anyone out there used boost juice on their windows? The one good thing about it would be the consistency always being 50/50 but I was also hoping to find some windshield washer fluid of a 50/50 or so mix and just buy a ****load of it at a $1 a gallon or so. Boost Juice is $26 for 4 gallons plus shipping.

I don't know were you live but even then -34F Washer are above $3 a gallon (at least here in NY). I don't think you'll find $1 a Gallon with a good % Meth in it. Maybe you can get $1 a gallon of distilled water only... Unless you spray alot then one gallon mix should last you at least 3-4 tank of gas.
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That was an assumption, I haven't shopped for washer fluid lately lol. If it is over $3 a gallon and boost juice will not leave streaks I might just go that route and call it a day. I'm going to check napa and autozone today and see what is out there. Some people have said Heet from walmart also works so I might go check this out too. I will follow up with prices and percentages this evening.
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I don't know were you live but even then -34F Washer are above $3 a gallon (at least here in NY). I don't think you'll find $1 a Gallon with a good % Meth in it. Maybe you can get $1 a gallon of distilled water only... Unless you spray alot then one gallon mix should last you at least 3-4 tank of gas.

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think of meth as race gas.

you will only see power differences if you advance the heck out of your timing. and in that case, you are have to use the % meth you tuned for.

if you tuned for 30% meth and then u run 50%, you wont have anymore power. would be like running premium gas in a yugo. overkill.

But if tuned for 50% meth and started running 30%, you could start knocking and pop your motor.
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
That was an assumption, I haven't shopped for washer fluid lately lol. If it is over $3 a gallon and boost juice will not leave streaks I might just go that route and call it a day. I'm going to check napa and autozone today and see what is out there. Some people have said Heet from walmart also works so I might go check this out too. I will follow up with prices and percentages this evening.

The Yellow Heet bottle is 99% Meth (Don't know what kind of quality meth they use) so you can use that together with the windshield washer to bump your meth %. Right now Heet cost around $1.40 in NYC (we don't have any Walmart here). You need 10.6 bottle of Heet to get 1 gallon so that is around $15 per gallon or $75 per 5 gallon. If you have a local VP vendor then you can get a 5 Gallon Tank of Pure Meth (VP M1) for around $40-$50 or cheaper if you go to a chemical place.
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I was able to go to Autozone today and all they had was -20 degree washer fluid ($1.69 per). Not sure what the percentage of meth would be on this but I bet it is low. Sounds like the Heet is not a cost effective way to go. I checked out the Boost Juice again and it's actually $29.95 plus like $30 for shipping, that's $60 for 4 gallons! I do like the idea mixing my own stuff if I can figure out where to find some pure meth locally.


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