BFG DR's.....Overkill???
05-12-2008, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
The problem with swaying is wayyy overthought. If you have proper air in tires, then you will not be able to tell a difference.
Are you refering to DR's or street tires
05-12-2008, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by coachk
Are you refering to DR's or street tires
05-12-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
DRs. I rock the nittos and my friend has MT. With 30+psi the sway is really not there.
05-12-2008, 08:30 PM
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thats a risk i wouldnt wanna take. they are called DRAG RADIALS for a reason. no offense to those that rock them, but i wouldnt wanna chance 'losing my car' at a high speed because i used a 'drag strip' tire. reminds me of when i see those muscle car guys with cheater slicks on the street. yeah, they are impressive from a dig, but they are absolutely wothless when it comes to higher speeds. to the OP, do your own research and find the tire thats right for you. tire rack has a good spec sheet on the major brands of tires(except toyo=)
05-12-2008, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitproof
thats a risk i wouldnt wanna take. they are called DRAG RADIALS for a reason. no offense to those that rock them, but i wouldnt wanna chance 'losing my car' at a high speed because i used a 'drag strip' tire. reminds me of when i see those muscle car guys with cheater slicks on the street. yeah, they are impressive from a dig, but they are absolutely wothless when it comes to higher speeds. to the OP, do your own research and find the tire thats right for you. tire rack has a good spec sheet on the major brands of tires(except toyo=)
05-13-2008, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
They dont help on the street you say? That is a lie if I ever heard one. True cold, neither street tire or DR will hook for ****, but my 305 nittos hooked 606rwhp on a warm day in 2nd. They are still a stickier compound and softer sidewall then a normal street tire, so they will help traction period.
The drag radials weren't even worth the reduced tire life over the BFG KDW2's that I normally run. Sure, maybe if you're driving around in the dead of summer in mid-day heat they might help, but I never noticed a single advantage of running them for the months I did. I would still spin in 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear if I dropped it hard. The only substantial difference I saw with running these softer compound tires was a fine layer of powdered rubber on my rear bumper.
They're especially not worth it when most people in here would have to buy a 2nd set of wheels to run them. In that case, don't bother.
Also, for what it's worth, I mostly drive my car at night on the weekends. (You know, when people normally go out)
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05-13-2008, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yes, I'm intentionally misleading everyone.
The drag radials weren't even worth the reduced tire life over the BFG KDW2's that I normally run. Sure, maybe if you're driving around in the dead of summer in mid-day heat they might help, but I never noticed a single advantage of running them for the months I did. I would still spin in 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear if I dropped it hard. The only substantial difference I saw with running these softer compound tires was a fine layer of powdered rubber on my rear bumper.
They're especially not worth it when most people in here would have to buy a 2nd set of wheels to run them. In that case, don't bother.
Also, for what it's worth, I mostly drive my car at night on the weekends. (You know, when people normally go out)
The drag radials weren't even worth the reduced tire life over the BFG KDW2's that I normally run. Sure, maybe if you're driving around in the dead of summer in mid-day heat they might help, but I never noticed a single advantage of running them for the months I did. I would still spin in 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear if I dropped it hard. The only substantial difference I saw with running these softer compound tires was a fine layer of powdered rubber on my rear bumper.
They're especially not worth it when most people in here would have to buy a 2nd set of wheels to run them. In that case, don't bother.
Also, for what it's worth, I mostly drive my car at night on the weekends. (You know, when people normally go out)
05-13-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yes, I'm intentionally misleading everyone.
The drag radials weren't even worth the reduced tire life over the BFG KDW2's that I normally run. Sure, maybe if you're driving around in the dead of summer in mid-day heat they might help, but I never noticed a single advantage of running them for the months I did. I would still spin in 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear if I dropped it hard. The only substantial difference I saw with running these softer compound tires was a fine layer of powdered rubber on my rear bumper.
They're especially not worth it when most people in here would have to buy a 2nd set of wheels to run them. In that case, don't bother.
Also, for what it's worth, I mostly drive my car at night on the weekends. (You know, when people normally go out)
The drag radials weren't even worth the reduced tire life over the BFG KDW2's that I normally run. Sure, maybe if you're driving around in the dead of summer in mid-day heat they might help, but I never noticed a single advantage of running them for the months I did. I would still spin in 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd gear if I dropped it hard. The only substantial difference I saw with running these softer compound tires was a fine layer of powdered rubber on my rear bumper.
They're especially not worth it when most people in here would have to buy a 2nd set of wheels to run them. In that case, don't bother.
Also, for what it's worth, I mostly drive my car at night on the weekends. (You know, when people normally go out)
NOTHING will hook up in the cold. My friends 450 rwhp supra will blow of MT when its cold. When its warm they will dead hook in first on the street. I guess your car just has tons more power then all of ours....
05-13-2008, 10:38 AM
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Ive seen non warmed up DR's dead hook from 1st gear in another Z-I was shocked as it was 40 degrees out. They work better straight line traction wise than any other regular street tire. Having stickier rubber doesnt mean you can be stupid with the throttle/gas and expect traction everytime. Anything can be broken loose, some common sense is required.
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05-13-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
NOTHING will hook up in the cold. My friends 450 rwhp supra will blow of MT when its cold. When its warm they will dead hook in first on the street. I guess your car just has tons more power then all of ours....
I've driven them on 80+ degree days with plenty of time to warm them up. Unless you can really get them hot by either driving on a hot sun baked street, or by performing a burnout, you will still constantly break traction like you were on a set of KDW2's.
If you really care about getting miles out of your tires then you probably won't be wanting to burn out constantly. And, who really goes out and runs their car hard in mid day 100 degree whether? No one, unless they're taking part in some illegal street racing where they're burning out from digs on the street constantly.
The vast majority of the people on this site will have to buy an entirely new set of wheels to run these drag radials. That being said, they're in no way worth the money. My suggestion would be to be happy with street tires or go try out some of the proper fitting r888's. (although I have no personal experience with them)
Originally Posted by alberto
Ive seen non warmed up DR's dead hook from 1st gear in another Z-I was shocked as it was 40 degrees out. They work better straight line traction wise than any other regular street tire. Having stickier rubber doesnt mean you can be stupid with the throttle/gas and expect traction everytime. Anything can be broken loose, some common sense is required.
...and about the "stupid with the throttle" comment, I'm perfectly capable of modulating throttle in my car. I'm still waiting for someone on this site to beat my 1/4mi street tire time. (built motor or not)
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05-13-2008, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MardiGrasMax
Maybe a tire pressure or camber issue?
FWIW I was driving around on the DR's at 30-35 psi for normal daily use with -1.0 rear camber (less than most on here).
I'll stick to KDW2's, and may be willing to try some of those R888's.
05-13-2008, 12:25 PM
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Why aren't you running drag radials on your car then? Ditch those 19's with street tires and practice what you preach.
...and about the "stupid with the throttle" comment, I'm perfectly capable of modulating throttle in my car. I'm still waiting for someone on this site to beat my 1/4mi street tire time. (built motor or not)
2. Im not preaching anything Im sharing experiences
3. 12.3 is weaksauce
4. ST's lag more and because of that hook up better (same for laggy TT's) yet you still break loose DR's in 3rd?
05-13-2008, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
1. This thread isnt about why I dont run DR's
2. Im not preaching anything Im sharing experiences
3. 12.3 is weaksauce
4. ST's lag more and because of that hook up better (same for laggy TT's) yet you still break loose DR's in 3rd?
2. Im not preaching anything Im sharing experiences
3. 12.3 is weaksauce
4. ST's lag more and because of that hook up better (same for laggy TT's) yet you still break loose DR's in 3rd?
