Utec is destroying engines ?!?!
Originally Posted by Jay'Z
You prob dont have FI w/750cc inj........
. i cant run a standalone in my state cuz inspection is done by the state. which means as soon as i go to dmv and they plug in their scanner and don't get a reading cuz i'm running a standalone=fail. i've had the utec since 2006 with my aps st. installed greddy tt's in 2007 and kept the utec and dont have any major issues even with 750cc rc injectors.
UTEC is a good piece for what it does just need to have a tuner that is worth a ****....Sharif at forged did my tune and he had nothing bad to say and my car runs great. There are advatages to stand alones but also a bigger cost
Originally Posted by Bullitproof
I do......and don't have any start-up issues . i cant run a standalone in my state cuz inspection is done by the state. which means as soon as i go to dmv and they plug in their scanner and don't get a reading cuz i'm running a standalone=fail. i've had the utec since 2006 with my aps st. installed greddy tt's in 2007 and kept the utec and dont have any major issues even with 750cc rc injectors.
. i cant run a standalone in my state cuz inspection is done by the state. which means as soon as i go to dmv and they plug in their scanner and don't get a reading cuz i'm running a standalone=fail. i've had the utec since 2006 with my aps st. installed greddy tt's in 2007 and kept the utec and dont have any major issues even with 750cc rc injectors.
Originally Posted by LILjiMMYj0NES
+1 I remember him posting on G35 Driver that his "TOONER" was Junior and he was runing the Proefi for a while. I guess he was not happy with his "TOONER' or the unit to go back to the UTEC.
Let me see my car has been running for over a year through different weather condition on my Utec tuned by Junior.
All of a sudden I get a ProEFI cause it was sold by one of the dealers hand picked by PROEFI and he worked there. I start getting all kind of headaches
and was patient enough to try and make the PROEFI over 5 months.
Now lets break it down to the issues Proefi has:
1) Unsteady Idle and AFR's
(you never know what you going to get from one day to the next)
2) having to crank the car 3x just for it to turn over
(2nd time always backfiring meaning too much fuel)
3) CEL Galore
(I guess that was a added features just so you can feel special)
4) Multi firing injectors and can't even get the injector driver right
(Clicking from injectors and firing 2 injectors at once in these day and age)
5) Locked box can only be tuned by authorized dealers
(User software/Can gauge has been promised and its always coming down the line, apart from authorized dealers being far and in between)
6) car stalling out in the middle of a turn
(Very scary lets not even get into that and hope it doesn't happen to others)
7) No Knock detention
(Supposedly still in the works)
8) Jason swears up and down that the PROEFI removes Rev limiter
I brought all this up with a few dealers apart from the dealer that installed it and according to some around here "I just needed a software update". Well I got the software update and this POS kept being a POS.
Now I got the Utec back in and I almost held the key in the crank position for too long since i was accustomed to holding down the key forever for the car to crank over with the ProEFI. I got my old tune's back in the Utec and couldn't be happier.
ProEFI was suppose to be a upgrade not a downgrade.
I probably push my car harder than 80% of the people on these forum.
My car is not a show car.
My car is a Street/Track car I push it to the limit weekly at different Autox/Road Course events.
My motor and my car stay in top running condition cause I take care of it.
I know what works and what doesn't in my car and the PROEFI evidently didn't.
I Hadn't laid out any $$$(At least until it was running right) out of pocket to make the move to
the PROEFI and to basically give something back that I got practically for free will show you how much misery it brought me.
Remember I tried keeping it civilized it but since people want to start bashing
I can bring it with the best of them.
As far as Randy's situation I won't comment on that.
It's none of my business to air his laundry.
He will speak up when he is good and ready.
Last edited by Glex25; Jul 27, 2008 at 11:38 AM.
Originally Posted by turtle1678
is there a shop other than GRD that does UTEC in chicago area ??
Edit: not much experience with G's or Z's, but had a pretty good history with UTECs on the Soobies and EVOs.
Last edited by Cube; Jul 27, 2008 at 12:33 PM.
Originally Posted by Glex25
Funny that the bashing has started when i try to keep it civilized but if you want to take it there I will more than happy follow along.
Let me see my car has been running for over a year through different weather condition on my Utec tuned by Junior.
All of a sudden I get a ProEFI cause it was sold by one of the dealers hand picked by PROEFI and he worked there. I start getting all kind of headaches
and was patient enough to try and make the PROEFI over 5 months.
Now lets break it down to the issues Proefi has:
1) Unsteady Idle and AFR's
(you never know what you going to get from one day to the next)
2) having to crank the car 3x just for it to turn over
(2nd time always backfiring meaning too much fuel)
3) CEL Galore
(I guess that was a added features just so you can feel special)
4) Multi firing injectors and can't even get the injector driver right
(Clicking from injectors and firing 2 injectors at once in these day and age)
5) Locked box can only be tuned by authorized dealers
(User software/Can gauge has been promised and its always coming down the line, apart from authorized dealers being far and in between)
6) car stalling out in the middle of a turn
(Very scary lets not even get into that and hope it doesn't happen to others)
7) No Knock detention
(Supposedly still in the works)
8) Jason swears up and down that the PROEFI removes Rev limiter
I brought all this up with a few dealers apart from the dealer that installed it and according to some around here "I just needed a software update". Well I got the software update and this POS kept being a POS.
Now I got the Utec back in and I almost held the key in the crank position for too long since i was accustomed to holding down the key forever for the car to crank over with the ProEFI. I got my old tune's back in the Utec and couldn't be happier.
ProEFI was suppose to be a upgrade not a downgrade.
I probably push my car harder than 80% of the people on these forum.
My car is not a show car.
My car is a Street/Track car I push it to the limit weekly at different Autox/Road Course events.
My motor and my car stay in top running condition cause I take care of it.
I know what works and what doesn't in my car and the PROEFI evidently didn't.
I Hadn't laid out any $$$(At least until it was running right) out of pocket to make the move to
the PROEFI and to basically give something back that I got practically for free will show you how much misery it brought me.
Remember I tried keeping it civilized it but since people want to start bashing
I can bring it with the best of them.
As far as Randy's situation I won't comment on that.
It's none of my business to air his laundry.
He will speak up when he is good and ready.
Let me see my car has been running for over a year through different weather condition on my Utec tuned by Junior.
All of a sudden I get a ProEFI cause it was sold by one of the dealers hand picked by PROEFI and he worked there. I start getting all kind of headaches
and was patient enough to try and make the PROEFI over 5 months.
Now lets break it down to the issues Proefi has:
1) Unsteady Idle and AFR's
(you never know what you going to get from one day to the next)
2) having to crank the car 3x just for it to turn over
(2nd time always backfiring meaning too much fuel)
3) CEL Galore
(I guess that was a added features just so you can feel special)
4) Multi firing injectors and can't even get the injector driver right
(Clicking from injectors and firing 2 injectors at once in these day and age)
5) Locked box can only be tuned by authorized dealers
(User software/Can gauge has been promised and its always coming down the line, apart from authorized dealers being far and in between)
6) car stalling out in the middle of a turn
(Very scary lets not even get into that and hope it doesn't happen to others)
7) No Knock detention
(Supposedly still in the works)
8) Jason swears up and down that the PROEFI removes Rev limiter
I brought all this up with a few dealers apart from the dealer that installed it and according to some around here "I just needed a software update". Well I got the software update and this POS kept being a POS.
Now I got the Utec back in and I almost held the key in the crank position for too long since i was accustomed to holding down the key forever for the car to crank over with the ProEFI. I got my old tune's back in the Utec and couldn't be happier.
ProEFI was suppose to be a upgrade not a downgrade.
I probably push my car harder than 80% of the people on these forum.
My car is not a show car.
My car is a Street/Track car I push it to the limit weekly at different Autox/Road Course events.
My motor and my car stay in top running condition cause I take care of it.
I know what works and what doesn't in my car and the PROEFI evidently didn't.
I Hadn't laid out any $$$(At least until it was running right) out of pocket to make the move to
the PROEFI and to basically give something back that I got practically for free will show you how much misery it brought me.
Remember I tried keeping it civilized it but since people want to start bashing
I can bring it with the best of them.
As far as Randy's situation I won't comment on that.
It's none of my business to air his laundry.
He will speak up when he is good and ready.
Good luck,
-George
Originally Posted by doug
i went through Inspection/Emissions with an F-Con.. i just put my stock cats back in and it still read.. and i passed
They dont even look at our cats anymore. They just plug into the OBD port. No codes, you pass. I could be wrong, but I assumed going to a standalone such as AEM or F-CON would render your stock ecu useless. If thats the case, Delaware dmv will fail you.
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Originally Posted by Glex25
Funny that the bashing has started when i try to keep it civilized but if you want to take it there I will more than happy follow along.
Let me see my car has been running for over a year through different weather condition on my Utec tuned by Junior.
All of a sudden I get a ProEFI cause it was sold by one of the dealers hand picked by PROEFI and he worked there. I start getting all kind of headaches
and was patient enough to try and make the PROEFI over 5 months.
Now lets break it down to the issues Proefi has:
1) Unsteady Idle and AFR's
(you never know what you going to get from one day to the next)
2) having to crank the car 3x just for it to turn over
(2nd time always backfiring meaning too much fuel)
3) CEL Galore
(I guess that was a added features just so you can feel special)
4) Multi firing injectors and can't even get the injector driver right
(Clicking from injectors and firing 2 injectors at once in these day and age)
5) Locked box can only be tuned by authorized dealers
(User software/Can gauge has been promised and its always coming down the line, apart from authorized dealers being far and in between)
6) car stalling out in the middle of a turn
(Very scary lets not even get into that and hope it doesn't happen to others)
7) No Knock detention
(Supposedly still in the works)
8) Jason swears up and down that the PROEFI removes Rev limiter
I brought all this up with a few dealers apart from the dealer that installed it and according to some around here "I just needed a software update". Well I got the software update and this POS kept being a POS.
Now I got the Utec back in and I almost held the key in the crank position for too long since i was accustomed to holding down the key forever for the car to crank over with the ProEFI. I got my old tune's back in the Utec and couldn't be happier.
ProEFI was suppose to be a upgrade not a downgrade.
I probably push my car harder than 80% of the people on these forum.
My car is not a show car.
My car is a Street/Track car I push it to the limit weekly at different Autox/Road Course events.
My motor and my car stay in top running condition cause I take care of it.
I know what works and what doesn't in my car and the PROEFI evidently didn't.
I Hadn't laid out any $$$(At least until it was running right) out of pocket to make the move to
the PROEFI and to basically give something back that I got practically for free will show you how much misery it brought me.
Remember I tried keeping it civilized it but since people want to start bashing
I can bring it with the best of them.
As far as Randy's situation I won't comment on that.
It's none of my business to air his laundry.
He will speak up when he is good and ready.
Let me see my car has been running for over a year through different weather condition on my Utec tuned by Junior.
All of a sudden I get a ProEFI cause it was sold by one of the dealers hand picked by PROEFI and he worked there. I start getting all kind of headaches
and was patient enough to try and make the PROEFI over 5 months.
Now lets break it down to the issues Proefi has:
1) Unsteady Idle and AFR's
(you never know what you going to get from one day to the next)
2) having to crank the car 3x just for it to turn over
(2nd time always backfiring meaning too much fuel)
3) CEL Galore
(I guess that was a added features just so you can feel special)
4) Multi firing injectors and can't even get the injector driver right
(Clicking from injectors and firing 2 injectors at once in these day and age)
5) Locked box can only be tuned by authorized dealers
(User software/Can gauge has been promised and its always coming down the line, apart from authorized dealers being far and in between)
6) car stalling out in the middle of a turn
(Very scary lets not even get into that and hope it doesn't happen to others)
7) No Knock detention
(Supposedly still in the works)
8) Jason swears up and down that the PROEFI removes Rev limiter
I brought all this up with a few dealers apart from the dealer that installed it and according to some around here "I just needed a software update". Well I got the software update and this POS kept being a POS.
Now I got the Utec back in and I almost held the key in the crank position for too long since i was accustomed to holding down the key forever for the car to crank over with the ProEFI. I got my old tune's back in the Utec and couldn't be happier.
ProEFI was suppose to be a upgrade not a downgrade.
I probably push my car harder than 80% of the people on these forum.
My car is not a show car.
My car is a Street/Track car I push it to the limit weekly at different Autox/Road Course events.
My motor and my car stay in top running condition cause I take care of it.
I know what works and what doesn't in my car and the PROEFI evidently didn't.
I Hadn't laid out any $$$(At least until it was running right) out of pocket to make the move to
the PROEFI and to basically give something back that I got practically for free will show you how much misery it brought me.
Remember I tried keeping it civilized it but since people want to start bashing
I can bring it with the best of them.
As far as Randy's situation I won't comment on that.
It's none of my business to air his laundry.
He will speak up when he is good and ready.
I thought Randy posted that he was happy with his computer. Is there something we don't know?
Originally Posted by Bullitproof
They dont even look at our cats anymore. They just plug into the OBD port. No codes, you pass. I could be wrong, but I assumed going to a standalone such as AEM or F-CON would render your stock ecu useless. If thats the case, Delaware dmv will fail you.
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