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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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This is awesome!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lightning Guy
I might be able to toss in some DW 600cc injectors. Lemme snoop around the shop. anything else you need. make a list that way peeps can sign off on things or specifically hunt for them, please.
Problem is I have to use side feed injectors similar to those found on a SR20 with the different manifold I have.

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Do you have a turbo kit brosef? I am willing to donate my old JWT TT setup to you, if that helps in any way. I would love to get some help too on some interior fab work.
I appreciate the offer but I have the turbo setup pretty much in check outside of a BOV injectors and engine management, more than willing to help with some interior fab tho!

Ok off the top of my head this I need/have yet to do:

For the turbo/engine and engine bay setup:
BOV
Clutch that will stand up to a GT35r on 9-11psi
I need a reflashed ecu or my current one reflashed
Side feed injectors
S14 Walbro Fuel Pump
S14 Catback 3" Exhaust (to be fabbed by me)
Engine needs to be rebuilt or I just need a good bottom end with lower compression pistons.
Powdercoating of parts (To be done by me)
Engine bay shaved of all unused bolt holes and such and coated (to be done by me)

Interior:
New S14 carpet
Drivers side 350z window motor
350z drivers side power seat rail
Re-wiring of interior harness (to be done by me)
Queitcar Spray in coating (to be done by me)

Exterior:
JDM S14 Zenki Sideskirts
Power sunroof
Paint (to be done by me)
Replace all windows and new seals
Rear wide body panels

Suspension and brakes:
Brembo 350z brakes or Z32 brakes
All new brake lines and fuel lines
Install energy suspension master bushing set

Then there is wheels and tires obviously

On a lighter note, I am going to get my friends parts S14 off him so my suspension will be pretty much squared away as I plan to just use stock s14 suspension with upgrade polyurethane bushings. The majority of my current suspension is missing because alot of it was bent.

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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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I can help you out with the BOV greedy rs with your name on it bud.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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i'll check around with my techs for some sr20 injectors
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 02:15 AM
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man I feel horrible that tonight is the first night I actually sat down and read this whole thing

and to find out it might never happen!

what's the paypal for the hundred bucks?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KingBaby
man I feel horrible that tonight is the first night I actually sat down and read this whole thing

and to find out it might never happen!

what's the paypal for the hundred bucks?
The paypal is where people can donate $100 if they feel they want to do so. I have had that up there for almost as long as I have been on this forum. The donation idea came later.

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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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how many names are on the list so far? if this is actually going to happen, add my name. then let me know when its time to donate! i will be doing a similar build (vq35 into my s14) next spring. so id like to see this done before me!
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Newest update:
VQ35 out.... Tag in VQ30DET.

I have been talking with my best friend who decided to ditch his S14 project that I had showed earlier in this thread. I have been talking to him and we are working out a deal to where I will get his VQ30DET from him.

WHY? Do you ask?

Low milage, JDM. Already built for turbo.... Which means no rebuild to be had to get this car running. Which = Big chunk taken out of projected costs of the project.

For those of you that dont know, info on the vq30det was covered earlier in this thread. Its basically a earlier turbo version of the vq35. Since they are so closely related I should have no problem adapting all the sensors from a vq35de to a vq30det and still use a reflashed VQ35 ecu. If I am right this could be a possible swap for 350zs and Gs.

If anyone has questions feel free to ask.

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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SinisterSntra91
If anyone has questions feel free to ask.
Why don't sheep shrink in the rain???
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Why don't sheep shrink in the rain???
Sheep secrete a substance, called lanolin, which covers the wool and makes it waterproof.

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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Can the VQ35de ecu really work on a turbo VQ30? What about using the larger intake, maf, and headers off a VQ35 on the 30, will that work, and if so will that give you better power and mileage?
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Can the VQ35de ecu really work on a turbo VQ30? What about using the larger intake, maf, and headers off a VQ35 on the 30, will that work, and if so will that give you better power and mileage?
With some re mapping it should work which is what I would have had to do to begin with. Headers are interchangeable with the VQ30 I know for a fact. I will be using the intake manifold I originally made for my VQ35 on the VQ30 which is a VQ30 manifold with the original throttle body removed and a new VQ35 throttle body flange was installed in its place. This is better anyway because the runners to the VQ35 head to the VQ30 intake manifod did not line up perfectly, enough to make a seal with a gasket but not a smooth even flow type line up. Overall the forge internals alone make switching motors worth while. I will be sacrificing the better flowing VQ35 heads, but it is what it is.

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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
I can help you out with the BOV greedy rs with your name on it bud.
could always donate the turbo and BOV to me

you plan on coming back to FL at all? gotta meet up again.


nice work on the project sinister, been following it all along and hope it gets finished
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So after some brainstorming with my friend we have decided to do a VQ30DET/VQ35DE combo. Meaning VQ30DET bottom end and VQ35DE heads. Should be a great bottom end for turbo and great flowing heads as well. Here are the specs for the VQ30DET for those who are curious:

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The 3.0 L (2987 cc) VQ30DET is a turbocharged version of the VQ30DE. Bore and stroke remain the same at 93 mm and 73.3 mm respectively, and it has a compression ratio of 9.0:1. It produces 270 PS (200 kW; 270 hp) and 271 ft·lbf (367 N·m). From 1998 onwards, it produces 280 PS (210 kW; 280 hp) @6000 rpm and 285 ft·lbf (386 N·m) @3600 rpm.

Should roughly make it a 3.3L if I am not mistaken (Dont know all the math involved to be completely accurate)

The plan is to take the VQ30DE heads and put them on the VQ35DE bottom end to make a high compression 3.3L for the next project which will be all motor.

I am getting excited I pick the VQ30DET up sometime this week. Still have to work out some kind of payment plan with my buddy cause I am still broke dick.... lol.

Still need a 350z firewall folks if anyone knows anyone with a parts 350z that wouldnt mind whipping out the old reciprocating saw...

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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SinisterSntra91
So after some brainstorming with my friend we have decided to do a VQ30DET/VQ35DE combo. Meaning VQ30DET bottom end and VQ35DE heads.
I am interested in seeing how this turns out. I have a VQ30DE that I am trying to figure out how to do this on. I was under the impression however that the 35 heads will lower the compression ratio due to the different combustion chamber design rather than change the engines displacement.

It seemed a better option than sourcing rods and pistons for the VQ30 if the original rods can handle the extra boost.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ObiRedKenobi
I am interested in seeing how this turns out. I have a VQ30DE that I am trying to figure out how to do this on. I was under the impression however that the 35 heads will lower the compression ratio due to the different combustion chamber design rather than change the engines displacement.

It seemed a better option than sourcing rods and pistons for the VQ30 if the original rods can handle the extra boost.
Yeah I am no expert on the specs or anything, its just what I have read from Maxima guys talking about it, rumor has it that top secret did something like this in a 350z I know the engine mounting points are the same so I know the VQ30DET can be swapped into a 350z pretty easily. Turbo setup clearances might be an issue tho.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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I should have probably clarified that this is going into a 240sx I have an s13 but I'm starting to think that that shell is going to take more work than I'm willing to put into it so a new one might be in order.
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Originally Posted by SinisterSntra91
So after some brainstorming with my friend we have decided to do a VQ30DET/VQ35DE combo. Meaning VQ30DET bottom end and VQ35DE heads. Should be a great bottom end for turbo and great flowing heads as well. Here are the specs for the VQ30DET for those who are curious:

Taken from Wikipedia:
VQ30DET

The 3.0 L (2987 cc) VQ30DET is a turbocharged version of the VQ30DE. Bore and stroke remain the same at 93 mm and 73.3 mm respectively, and it has a compression ratio of 9.0:1. It produces 270 PS (200 kW; 270 hp) and 271 ft·lbf (367 N·m). From 1998 onwards, it produces 280 PS (210 kW; 280 hp) @6000 rpm and 285 ft·lbf (386 N·m) @3600 rpm.

Should roughly make it a 3.3L if I am not mistaken (Dont know all the math involved to be completely accurate)
This combo will remain a 3.0L motor but would result in lower c/r around 8.5-1, you maybe better off just keeping the stock 3.0 heads cleaning them up and doing some mild porting

The plan is to take the VQ30DE heads and put them on the VQ35DE bottom end to make a high compression 3.3L for the next project which will be all motor.
This combo would still be 3.5L but have around 10.8-1 c/r, to make a 3.3L motor you will need to put the 3.5 guts in a 3.0

Here is something to read: http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/2...bolt-pics.html

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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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Sounds like an interesting setup. If budget would allowed, I would see if you can get VQ37 heads or even VQ40 heads and the are suppose to be even more freer flowing(at least that what I read).

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Interesting info guys, much appreciated. A lot to think about.
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