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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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Hey guys I just talked to a local shop and asked about upping the boost in my car from the vortech 3.33 pulley to the 2.87 pulley, its a 2003 350z I dont have stock internal work done at all I have a kinetix, full return system stage I, 600cc injectors and exhaust testpipes back, Im using a utec as engine management , I was told without internal work I will definetly bend rods and blow my engine. is this true?

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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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I have heard that the 2.87 is safe on the stock block. The torque is what kills the rods and superchargers have a very linear torque curve. You should be fine.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by turtle1678
Hey guys I just talked to a local shop and asked about upping the boost in my car from the vortech 3.33 pulley to the 2.87 pulley, its a 2003 350z I dont have stock internal work done at all I have a kinetix, full return system stage I, 600cc injectors and exhaust testpipes back, Im using a utec as engine management , I was told without internal work I will definetly bend rods and blow my engine. is this true?
Suggest you ask whoever told you this provide some examples of blown stock motors w/ 2.87 pulley.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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^ +1
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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its all in the tuner. i have installed many many many 2.87 pulleys on stock motors with zero being blown....
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Could you recommend someone in Chicago that will tune a utec
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Someone else will know, there is a place called GND or something in the Chicago area that I have heard good things about.
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Originally Posted by turtle1678
Could you recommend someone in Chicago that will tune a utec
Auto Motion in Louisville KY ask for Charles he will take care of you.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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just make sure you use a good tuner...
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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if you have a bad tune you betcha! get a good ems with a nice tune and solid fuel system and your chances of blowing your motor decreases significantly.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
Someone else will know, there is a place called GND or something in the Chicago area that I have heard good things about.
It's GRD, Genisus Racing and Development. http://www.grdstore.com/dyno_tuning....d925225a350de1
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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I had an appointment today to go to GRD to get all this done and I was at a cruise night Sat and another guy there who was talking out of his ##$ about stuff he is planning on doing to his z told me they arent good and that he would only go to ultimate z, so I called them and the guy obviously had no idea what he was talking about b/c he told me there is no way that I can run this and that it would only be good for 2 possibly 3 dyno pulls and my engine would be done. I plan on running a Utec and an AAM full stage I and a snow stage II kit with 600 injectors, he told me the internals are good for no more than 7-8psi which is pushing it.

But is GRD good with Utec and wont blow my engine?
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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7-8 psi being the max on a stock engine for only 2-3 dyno pulls? lol

There's been people running 15 psi on stock engines and though they didn't last long, they lasted way longer than 2-3 dyno pulls
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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You should be fine. What have you done to free up your exhaust? The more free flowing you can make things the less boost your engine will see. But don't go too big or you will lose your bottom end power.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Can I run the 2.87 with out the new injectors and fuel system or are these a must have.
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my setup in sig isnt exactly the best choice, but was done on a budget very well by performance factory, i peak at 10psi 2.87 pulley and have had 0 problems.... besides traction, luckily that has been addressed

think new injectors and at least a 255 walbro would be advised. More air = more fuel or you will lean out very quick
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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no they're absolutely needed unless you only want to rev to 5000-5500 rpms because going above that you're going to run out of fuel real quick

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Can I run the 2.87 with out the new injectors and fuel system or are these a must have.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cheatthe1
my setup in sig isnt exactly the best choice, but was done on a budget very well by performance factory, i peak at 10psi 2.87 pulley and have had 0 problems.... besides traction, luckily that has been addressed

think new injectors and at least a 255 walbro would be advised. More air = more fuel or you will lean out very quick
I'm running the 2.87 with the stock inj and still rich...

no one is the same...
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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some of it will have to do with your elevation with how much fuel you actually need and obviously the timing/tune.

Otherwise you can always push the stock injectors to their limits, but you're still risking the engine if one of the injectors fails from being run so extreme
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When it comes to Vortech, I'd give serious attention to Sentry's thoughts and opinions. I think he has more experience than anyone else on the boards on the topic.
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