I think you are wrong... but I dont have the money sitting in the bank to properly setup 2 cars with FI and go to the track.... I could give a crap about dyno.... anyone can own a dyno queen, but when it comes down to it they havnt dropped their nuts yet when they hit the street..... I think that if the OP has the experience to build a Remote mount turbo then so be it.... and as far as your argument about how a rear mount will NEVER reach the same power goals as a engine mounted system..... I think you are wrong.... just like people use to think the world was flat..... things change, technology advances, performance generally gets better not worse..... sts wouldnt be in business if they didnt produce good working efficient systems... period...

 

True, but the Turbonetics kit can be pushed over 500whp with that same turbo. The hotside piping is even more restrictive at that. But like I said before, that's as much as I'd want to open up the kit vs kit can of worms.

 

Your basis of thought isn't based in reality which is basic turbocharging knowledge. You basically have no clue how a turbo system works.

STS isn't in business because their kits are good at making power. They're in business because they're good at marketing their kits as low priced and easily installed bargain turbo kits. People have a tendency to buy into those qualities. They have their own niche in the market because none of the other turbo kit manufacturers are interested in going that route.

 

Thank you for reading my post. Good to see people still have that skill.

Why are so many suggesting TT's? I AM LOOKING TO RUN 7psi AND ABOUT 350-380WHP. I DON'T NEED THE TT SETUP.

I have researched this STS setup and it's proven to work, so what if I loose 1psi in my piping if I have a properly sized turbo to compensate for that. Just look at the youtube link I posted. The guy with a G35 made over 500whp with a sts kit, so it's more than capable.

I am on a budget too (my mortgage +bills are $3500/month, married and have 2 kids) and don't want to buy a kit that I can make myself. I am aware that I need to do some more researching but that's fine, and I don't have a problems with it.

 

Can you put your bias oppininos to the side and have a look at the vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1-jwm7Azdw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka07637uCXU This is what I'm after

 

I don't like the guy but he's right.

I kid, I don't know him...can't hate him yet. But he's still right about STS. There's a reason its not mainstream. But it is still F/I and will add power...so if that's what your after, it will get the job done. Its just not the one I'd choose. Personal preference I guess.


But OP, for your goals it'll work. So go for it.

 

its not mainstream because they have only been making kits for 350Z's for a year.... it takes time for the name to get out there.... for example this thread.... OP never even knew there was an STS....

 

not sure if you're set on a remote mount setup but if you want to DIY turbo.. check this out

http://g35driver.com/forums/forced-i...-write-up.html

 

I've already seen those vids. Like I've said multiple times in this thread, if you want to make a rear mount turbo system, by all means do...

But, don't post false or misleading information about that type of kit because it tends to perpetuate a lot of BS on these forums that some individuals and companies thrive upon.

 

it was cheaper installed 4 months ago....WTH?

tarurran....you have some good points but your delivery sucks ballz man. I agree with alot of what your saying but daaam man you for force feeding information to someone who wants to do his own thing. Who cares about the specifics....I argue of Air Fuels like everyday with someone..either in real life on here on the boards. He wants to do it himself....let him do it...why nit pick em do death? its not like he said rear mounts are better than manifold mounts because rear mounts are cheaper, more effecient, and cost less....I am not impressed with the STS for big power. But I am impressed with the engine temps and ease of installation and removal...something no Greddy TT owner can claim. To each their own bro... I didnt feel like he was misleading anyone so far off the path with his opinions that he deserved a lecture

its like your playing turbowiki editor or something....we are not rewriting (posting) in the God inspired Bible...

again, points valid...delivery needs some work...lol

cant we all just get along?

LOL

 

and turnonetics is a quality kit that isnt made cheaply...that didnt need many iterations before they figured out the boost, bottleneck, and heat issues? How many times did somoeone try to make over 500 wheel with that freaking kit? how many motors blew from spikes...how many hoods burned or plastics in the engine bay?

lets play fair bro...

IMO turbonetics have been making Z kits (talking Z/G kits only) longer than STS has...STS has improved their kits waaaay faster than the long time turbonectics kit. And most of the issues found and fixed on the turbonectics kits...were not by turbonectics..it was by memebers and shops on these forum...yourself included...

soooo lets be careful on our words if we are going to nit pic others man.

let it be...and be done...

Im have to stop reading this thread now.... Im starting to nit pic myself....lol

everyone has contradicted themselves...but in the end..the OP will build his own kit....no matter what we say.

 

^^

You mean you will not argue that one turbo kit will spool at 3100rpm and the other (better kit) will spool at 3200rpm?

Come on, lol.

 

boy am I glad that taurran was here to clean-up all the misinformation.

you are all idiots. More piping on a twin turbo setup? Sorry, I almost fell on the floor from laughing.

 

dude watch your words....i think this thread is funny.

no need for name calling...we are adults having a conversation....just some take things more seriously than others...

this is pure raw entertainment

I love how a car platform that has only been around for 6 years...have people who are such experts....give me a freaking break..everyone here is a new to this car...now if you talk Chevy 350 and a guy thats in his 50s....he is not a newb.

if someone on here builds turbos for a living or works at a shop...they have more knowledge but in the big picture...we are all newbs man. so why fight to the death over an opinion?

 

Do you work for STS? In my opinion the STS kit is a steamy pile o S%*T. And they are scammers and theives to boot!

 

What they never said was that was done on a 3.8L stroker motor with race gas.. Typical DECEPTIVE practices by STS and their affiliates!!
Then perhaps F/I is NOT right for you sir. There are always the variables.

 

I can tell you - zero from boost spikes. Please find me an instance of one here that has. The kit never spiked, it creeped, whereas other kits on the market bleed off boost. Turbonetics had a fix which they provided for free within six months of the kits release (over 2.5 years ago).

There are multiple people making over 500whp here on the forums on it. I don't know of any hoods burned with it, or plastics in the engine bay. Sounds to me like you're just exaggerating and speaking in extremes. You have absolutely no point or weight in your argument.

Again, just shallow attacks. Go read my earlier posts and try to actually comprehend what I'm talking about. I'm debating design of engine mount turbos vs rear mount turbos - NOT kit vs kit.

Be careful of words? I came to this thread talking about turbo efficiency and design and you came in to bash a kit in particular. You even failed at doing that by spewing nothing but over exaggerated bs.

Rear mount turbos really don't make much sense except in an ease of installation sense. And, unfortunately for STS, you can buy a Powerlab kit for cheaper now, and have well more potential and/or customer service than STS would ever provide.

You people assume that in every post I'm talking about turbonetics kits. In fact, you and others are the ones that constantly bring it up. Stop it already.

Oh, and I'm not your bro...

 

Speak for yourself. There's opinion and there's fact. I've stated nothing but fact about rear mount turbo setups. If that rubs you the wrong way, then sorry but it still won't change the laws of physics.

 

alright, the name calling was uncalled for

this discussion has nothing to do with platform or the engine it is running on. As Tauran has stated, the facts here are based on the laws of physics. This is not an opinionated argument. People who know about turbo cars should be able to understand these concepts. People who don't know about turbo cars, should start listening.

 

And you must be taurrants coffee boy. Go team go.