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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Your kit and a GT35R kit have the same DP. The 76S Kit uses 3.5"
Exactly. Along with all the other piping. Which is why im confused that he keeps putting out that information that its in some way different. Please stop trying to take this thread into a direction that will surely get it locked thus preventing the actual problem from being fixed.(yet again) I wont respond to anymore personal attacks made by the same people. I stated my issues and now someone completely unrelated to me in any way is having the same problem.
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Originally Posted by SnyperZ
Exactly. Along with all the other piping. Which is why im confused that he keeps putting out that information that its in some way different. Please stop trying to take this thread into a direction that will surely get it locked thus preventing the actual problem from being fixed.(yet again) I wont respond to anymore personal attacks made by the same people. I stated my issues and now someone completely unrelated to me in any way is having the same problem.
I didn't realize my posts attacked you...
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I didn't realize my posts attacked you...

Your the only one who hasn't attacked my opinions. I was referring to QS.
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not that it is..but if it was


^^
thats a DIY install and it looks fine to me

if thats too low then go back to a smaller turbo or a 2" DP then
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thats a DIY install and it looks fine to me

if thats too low then go back to a smaller turbo or a 2" DP then

Maybe you should stay out of this thread. The OP wants a solution to his issues,(as do I) so you telling him to "go back to a smaller turbo or 2" dp" is completely ridiculous. He as well as I did not pay 6500$+ for a "premium" turbo kit that would need this much work nor be treated like sh*t by its designer(yes Intense is in deed part owner of powerlab since Hans name is on the business along with JS and one other name) and their bandwagon customers. I hope anyone that reads this sees what they will have to go through if they have ANY issues with this kit.



BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE.
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my exhaust resonators hang way lower than that and they only scrape on the biggest of speed bumps.

There's nothing that Intense/PL can do. Take the pipes to a shop and have them bent at a deeper anagle along with the exhaust so it matches up.

Apparently that how the pipes are made from PL, so just sitting around whining is not going to get you anywhere. You wanted a premium turbo kit with huge piping, and thats what you got.
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^^^ exactly...snyperz you are just exagerating here all you are looking for is butt kissing and you arent going to get it, quit trying to make this as if it was a huge problem with pl kits when many other customers arent having the same issues...and how was my post not on topic ...you or OP how low does your DP sit compared to the pics posted by jeffie? lower?

i mean i dont understand why all the complainig if you wanted something more stock then buy a kit with 2" dp then

OP as i suggested, check some more places in the installation, jeffie posted some tips, perhaps it will help. Maybe post some pictures so we can better assist

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My DP doesn't hang low at all. Looks almost as low as Jeffie. Only time I every scrap is if it's an extremely large speed bump,
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OP, when are you getting under the car? pics? I wish you were in the area I'd love to get under it and try and see what's up.

keep me updated.
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I want to be clear..now seeing that my thread was merged with another one of my threads from 2 months ago. I am not bashing intense for anything. I tried to solve the problems over the phone but as some of you can atest to they are extremelly difficult to reach. I called nearly 50 times over a period of 3 weeks and they answered the phone one time. That one time they answered I was told I would get a call back from someone. I left my name and my number I never received a call back. After all that I brought my concerns to the boards.

I have pictures of my car where you can see scrapes on the DP. It only happens when I hit moderate bumps or speed bumps. My car is stock hieght for a G35. Ive really heard it scrape once on the open road in a bump. The majority of times it scrapes is when I go over speed bumps. I am simply asking if anyone has had this experience.

Now, the issue with the screeching noise. I have now heard the same noise on another PL car. It is identical to what I am hearing on my car so it is highly unlikely there is something wrong with my car or install. Jeffie, are you getting this noise with your car? When you rev up to 4000rpms and let the rpms fall its sounds like a screeching noise. Or when you downshift into a lower gear and slow down you can hear the noise louder because the engine is decelerating at a slower speed. Just trying to figure out what it is.

I have alot of questions for PL but the only time it seems I get their attention is when I do this so....

Here are the pics of my car not the best but it shows the scrapping (im not making it up) The scrapping really is an issue for me b\c now I am getting vibrations within the cabin. It seems as though the downpipe is shifting into the subframe a little. I can avoid speed bumps BUT, there will come a time where I cannot avoid a speed bump eventually the pipe will be stuck against the subframe if it keeps happening.



This is the picture of the scraping. You can see how the gasket is being flattened

Picture from the front of the car

Picture from the rear.

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also...questions for the mods....why was my thread merged with this one. Now the point of this thread is dilluted with my previous thread and everyone who looks at the title is not even going to respond to what I originally posted about the downpipe issue/question. what gives what that

I thought this was spose to be a discussion board...

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jeffie, those noise is 100% coming from the kit. The car was check very thoroughly by teh installers they even went to the lengths of removing the kit completely and reinstalling it to be sure. Noise was still present after teh reinstallations. I have had a couple of people drive my car and they thought the noise was compressor surge. This was with out me even saying anything to them about teh noise...just them driving it and hearing it themselves.

The noise is responsive to the engine so I think it has to do with the piping of the kit.
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This is EXACTLY in every way the same problems ive had with the kit..as far as calling 50+ times, never getting calls back and being considered a pain in the *** because a shop that I spent 10,000$ on was too busy to call me back while giving excuse after excuse on why I didnt have my stuff when they said id have it. Im also having the exact same noise/vibrations. I installed and re-installed the kit 3 times and was put to blame saying the problems were because I had "lack of experience(they knew this some how). Im glad you had a known professional go through the same thing. This is getting out of hand. And my question of why this thread was merged was never answered but im going to go with a guess that it was merged(kinda of like mine being deleted) at the request of Intense. Your thread title had the words Powerlab and problems in it which im guessing is why it was "merged" with the old threads name that just said where are they. This is getting pretty ridiculous on both the moderators and the intense crew that this is now happening to someone else. I was nothing but patient and when I finally did defend myself from a provoked attack by Rude. You guys will continue to overlook the real issue here and try and cover it up(like you have with this thread being merged and countless excuses) and then eventually consider SpeqZ some form of idiot like you have me. Its really sad that a shop would stoop to this level.

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I was (the first) home done intsall. and got one of the first kits so that puts me early in the game.
Intense always took my calls, rarely did I ever have much of a wait time and they were also great with e-mails.
Again, I was one of the first people. They might have 50 people trying to install the kit this week alone, maybe they're getting 20 calls a day and just can't handle it?

I just wanted to put my 2c in that they were great with me, but then again, I was one of the first to do this kit and chances are they had very low call volume.
I cant say if they're still good or not since I haven't had to call them for 8 months or so.

I do not have any issues with rubbing. Maybe it's because I have an 03? Maybe I somehow managed to get super lucky? I don't know. I'd still like to get my head under your car =)
If there's any picture request, I could try and get a few shots for you of any spots in question but I do not have a way of getting under the car right now, I can only shoot them from over top the engine bay. Should beable to get some of the chargepipe (uppipe) as with the exhaust uppipe, turbo, and down pipe.

The installer should have been able to see rubbing issues with the piping when under the car, I could clearly tell while installing it I had a very small window of error or it would rub, but once everything was fit into place and tightened down, I could tell I didn't have any rubbing. Do you think maybe your issue is further down the line? somewhere you might not be looking like maybe an exhaust hanger that's broke or a piece of metal hitting the exhaust? not trying to shift the blame from the PL kit but a lot of times when people hear a new noise they forgot that its not always the part they changed but rather something else related to it that was touched during the install.

I remember talking to one of the powerlab reps (not intense) before I installed the kit and them telling me that depending on how my car is I might or might not need to loosen the steering rack or lowering the metal brace holding the transmission in place to help install the piping then once its in place to tighten them back up. Just another option that maybe your installer had to do either of those things and didn't fully tighten them back down and forgot all about it? for the record I didn't have to do either for my car.

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Originally Posted by jeffie7
I was (the first) home done intsall. and got one of the first kits so that puts me early in the game.
Intense always took my calls, rarely did I ever have much of a wait time and they were also great with e-mails.
Again, I was one of the first people. They might have 50 people trying to install the kit this week alone, maybe they're getting 20 calls a day and just can't handle it?

I just wanted to put my 2c in that they were great with me, but then again, I was one of the first to do this kit and chances are they had very low call volume.
I cant say if they're still good or not since I haven't had to call them for 8 months or so.

See at first it went that way for me. I asked the delivery date so I could get things prepared to do the install. I was given a date. That date came and passed and I waited a couple of days and called(i had called about 5 times previously before hand to keep ordering more and more things) and then I was told about 15 different stories from everyone there which is when I started to get pissed off. Pete told me one day they were just waiting to polish the pipes and that it would be a couple of days and he'd call me back..never did..so I called back, then his story changed to one of the pipes arent finish, to the turbo wasnt there yet, to everything was packed ready to go, to everything was getting ready to be packed, to waiting to polish the pipes(almost in that order)and NOT ONCE did he call me back as promised..which is why I had to constantly call for answers on everything. At one point I asked just to ship the intercooler so I could get it coated and I was told it would ship out in 2 days..and to call back..so I called back in 2 days and they said they werent going to ship it out that day(friday) because they were shipping the whole kit monday..well monday came and went..along with another 2 weeks of excuses/story changes almost every 2 days.

Its downright the most awful experience ive ever had with a shop after spending about 10,000 in just a few minutes. And they can put all the blame on me or make excuses on why none of them ever called me back but the bottom line thats how it went down. Ive delt with 2 other shops on here and ill bet you if you ask them(they know me well enough)..they've never had an issue with me. A simple phone call back as promised for a status update would of saved all of this ********(even if it took 2 more months)...theres a reason im makign such a big deal about this..its not because I want to ruin them or constantly bash, but I want everyone else to know how badly I was treated(since this is a public forum)..however it always seems to get shot down or attention averted to some other stupid excuse/reason/blame for all of this.
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Originally Posted by SnyperZ

Its downright the most awful experience ive ever had with a shop after spending about 10,000 in just a few minutes. And they can put all the blame on me or make excuses on why none of them ever called me back but the bottom line thats how it went down. Ive delt with 2 other shops on here and ill bet you if you ask them(they know me well enough)..they've never had an issue with me.
If you bought in stock items there's no reason for the other shops to have any issues boxing and shipping the parts to you. If no issue, then no need to call 3-4-5 times and it makes life easy for both sides.

I ordered the kit and was told it would be ready in x many weeks (I forget how long) the day came and past, I called and was told that the color blow off valve should be in within a few days but the colored waste gate was still no ETA. I told them to wait for the red blow off valve but just send me a basic wastegate since its not like you could see it anyways. few days went by, got an AIM from I think pete? saying parts were finished and the package would be shipped out. like 2 days later it was here. I remember being surprised when I went to work and found 2 large boxes sitting there. Even more surprised when I saw just how much crap was in the two boxes and had to scratch my head on how the hell was it all going to fit in my TL =)

Either way, Intense's phone support if its good or if its bad doesn't really fix the issue at hand. Clearly something is rubbing somewhere based on what you guys are saying. I find it really hard to believe that you can't see what's rubbing when you get under the car. The down pipe is tight and hard to see if its rubbing anything but I do remember making a mental note that it cleared everything just fine before I moved on. cross over pipe shouldn't be hitting anything, the wastegate back shouldn't hit anything, the two main parts that could rub are the up pipe and down pipe, but maybe that's the wrong side of things?

Are you both 100% your charge pipes are not hitting any metal? You said the GT37 kit didn't have an airfilter charge pipe so that rules that out but maybe its lose on the GT35 kit? maybe that uppipe coming off the I/C is rubbing the metal under the headlight? if its making a noise clearly something is causing a problem somewhere, you should be able to figure it out by looking over everything. I also remember the charge piping coming straight off the turbo on the right side was a bit tight twisting around under the drivers side headlight. If something is rubbing charge pipe wise, you should easily see wear marks since that metal is easy to mark.
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Originally Posted by SnyperZ
See at first it went that way for me. I asked the delivery date so I could get things prepared to do the install. I was given a date. That date came and passed and I waited a couple of days and called(i had called about 5 times previously before hand to keep ordering more and more things) and then I was told about 15 different stories from everyone there which is when I started to get pissed off. Pete told me one day they were just waiting to polish the pipes and that it would be a couple of days and he'd call me back..never did..so I called back, then his story changed to one of the pipes arent finish, to the turbo wasnt there yet, to everything was packed ready to go, to everything was getting ready to be packed, to waiting to polish the pipes(almost in that order)and NOT ONCE did he call me back as promised..which is why I had to constantly call for answers on everything. At one point I asked just to ship the intercooler so I could get it coated and I was told it would ship out in 2 days..and to call back..so I called back in 2 days and they said they werent going to ship it out that day(friday) because they were shipping the whole kit monday..well monday came and went..along with another 2 weeks of excuses/story changes almost every 2 days.

Its downright the most awful experience ive ever had with a shop after spending about 10,000 in just a few minutes. And they can put all the blame on me or make excuses on why none of them ever called me back but the bottom line thats how it went down. Ive delt with 2 other shops on here and ill bet you if you ask them(they know me well enough)..they've never had an issue with me. A simple phone call back as promised for a status update would of saved all of this ********(even if it took 2 more months)...theres a reason im makign such a big deal about this..its not because I want to ruin them or constantly bash, but I want everyone else to know how badly I was treated(since this is a public forum)..however it always seems to get shot down or attention averted to some other stupid excuse/reason/blame for all of this.
Mark, you and I have discussed your situation a few times, and I have never attacked you in a way shape or form (at least i hope you don't think I have), but you had a unsatisfactory experience with Intense. You have stated this numerous times already. Do you really need to keep re-stating it? Now I know you get provoked most of the time, but I believe you have already expressed your displeasure with your kit, and Intense.

Judging by your sig, it looks like you have the intentions of moving on to a different platform. Best of luck to you, and i hope you enjoy the Z from here on out.

I hope you don't take this post as an "attack", because in no way shape or form is it ment to be.
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jeffie, those noise is 100% coming from the kit. The car was check very thoroughly by teh installers they even went to the lengths of removing the kit completely and reinstalling it to be sure. Noise was still present after teh reinstallations. I have had a couple of people drive my car and they thought the noise was compressor surge. This was with out me even saying anything to them about teh noise...just them driving it and hearing it themselves.

The noise is responsive to the engine so I think it has to do with the piping of the kit.
Torrey,

It was nice talking to you earlier, and i agree with everything you said to me on the phone. Hopefully your conversation with Han helped you/or will help you get your two issues resolved. You have my number so feel free to call me whenever you have a question, or if you can't get a hold of Powerlab. Again, it was nice talking to you, and I hope everything gets worked out.
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
If you bought in stock items there's no reason for the other shops to have any issues boxing and shipping the parts to you. If no issue, then no need to call 3-4-5 times and it makes life easy for both sides.

I ordered the kit and was told it would be ready in x many weeks (I forget how long) the day came and past, I called and was told that the color blow off valve should be in within a few days but the colored waste gate was still no ETA. I told them to wait for the red blow off valve but just send me a basic wastegate since its not like you could see it anyways. few days went by, got an AIM from I think pete? saying parts were finished and the package would be shipped out. like 2 days later it was here. I remember being surprised when I went to work and found 2 large boxes sitting there. Even more surprised when I saw just how much crap was in the two boxes and had to scratch my head on how the hell was it all going to fit in my TL =)

Either way, Intense's phone support if its good or if its bad doesn't really fix the issue at hand. Clearly something is rubbing somewhere based on what you guys are saying. I find it really hard to believe that you can't see what's rubbing when you get under the car. The down pipe is tight and hard to see if its rubbing anything but I do remember making a mental note that it cleared everything just fine before I moved on. cross over pipe shouldn't be hitting anything, the wastegate back shouldn't hit anything, the two main parts that could rub are the up pipe and down pipe, but maybe that's the wrong side of things?

Are you both 100% your charge pipes are not hitting any metal? You said the GT37 kit didn't have an airfilter charge pipe so that rules that out but maybe its lose on the GT35 kit? maybe that uppipe coming off the I/C is rubbing the metal under the headlight? if its making a noise clearly something is causing a problem somewhere, you should be able to figure it out by looking over everything. I also remember the charge piping coming straight off the turbo on the right side was a bit tight twisting around under the drivers side headlight. If something is rubbing charge pipe wise, you should easily see wear marks since that metal is easy to mark.
Jeffie.... I do have to say... You are the ultimate DIY man!!!!
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Jeffie.... I do have to say... You are the ultimate DIY man!!!!
Do you work at intense? I didn't know there was any connection between the two?

lol have you seen any of the house pictures? 1 month I knocked out a wall, did new contertops, new sink, leveled the subflooring (was WACK! 3 days straight of sanding/cutting) put down new flooring, new toliets, new carpet, new switches, new fridge, new stove, redid the gas lines in the kitchen for new stove (so the stove would sit flush) as with rewired/moved a few power outlets (another one for the stove to sit flush to the wall) fixed the half assed wiring job on the dishwasher, new water heater, new paint, many drywall fixes some that needed whole sections of dryway to be cut out and replaced........ I'm missing A LOT but yeah....

Most things were first time jobs for me. Just start to dig and see where it takes you. next thing you know....



Only thing I paid someone to do was the 3 amigos para la carpet. =)

anywho, back to the OP. got any updates for me? I'm gonna ride your *** till we get this fixed so I can figure out what the problem is for the future 2938409324 people who PM me about this kit.



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