My build, can I reach 600rwhp?
600rwhp on pump you'll prob need cams, on race 600rwhp can be made easy assuming the turbos will flow that much anyway. (I made more than that on stock cams)
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Quick-I meant your tune as in your opinion, not the actual tune in the car lol...Sleeves arent overkill, they simply arent needed in this guys build, we know you have different cicumstances with your car.
I am running AAM RFS with 850cc DW injectors and single walbro, and according to Sharif, I have no problems with fuel at any of my power levels.
I agree with never having enough fuel though.
Last edited by craigo'sznprgrs; Oct 10, 2008 at 09:24 AM.
My next stage of mods includes going from the OEM plenum and motordyne spacer to an APS tallboy plenum and strut, 3" DP's and 3" TD exhaust, K&N filters to replace the 'shrooms, koyo, oil cooler, catch can, retune. I also may switch out the 750 RC injectors I have now in favor of some DW, but I've still got research to do on injectors.
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Thanks you for all the replies and the very useful info.
Few questions:
If say I was to upgrade to a twin pump setup so fuel was not limiting me, would these turbos even be able to create enough boost/power for me to actually break my block
Do you think it is wise to invest in the Arias ED pistons? Perhaps in the future I may want more power and go with sleeves.. but I dont really know if 600+ rwhp is even necessary if I want to drive it on the street.
I dont have the unichip, I have a UTEC currently...I know it sucks.. seems turboxs doesnt even update the software anymore... I would ultimately like a Haltech PNP Platinum. Would it be advisable not to even bother trying to tune higher HP with the UTEC and save for the Haltech?
Is it safe to say that 650cc should get me ~650rwhp (1hp per 1cc rule?) Without being @ 100% duty cycle would be the ideal..
Few questions:
If say I was to upgrade to a twin pump setup so fuel was not limiting me, would these turbos even be able to create enough boost/power for me to actually break my block
Do you think it is wise to invest in the Arias ED pistons? Perhaps in the future I may want more power and go with sleeves.. but I dont really know if 600+ rwhp is even necessary if I want to drive it on the street.
I dont have the unichip, I have a UTEC currently...I know it sucks.. seems turboxs doesnt even update the software anymore... I would ultimately like a Haltech PNP Platinum. Would it be advisable not to even bother trying to tune higher HP with the UTEC and save for the Haltech?
Is it safe to say that 650cc should get me ~650rwhp (1hp per 1cc rule?) Without being @ 100% duty cycle would be the ideal..
Last edited by jining; Oct 10, 2008 at 02:58 PM.
Since everyone says that the APS Standard TT kit is limited to low 600's wouldn't running 9.5psi compression be best as to not depend so much on turbo's
I understand about lower compression is best to play it safe against knock and detonation but if someone is not looking to upgrade further than the standard APS TT kit, wouldn't running 9.5 psi compression help you make more than 675+ RWHP and still be safe?
Just asking since I see guys here running 9.1 compression and are pretty up there but depending more on the turbo than the engine for power.
Jining check at what PSI they evaluate those 650cc cause the standard is usualy 3bar and the APS system runs on 4bar PSI so that would make them closer to 725cc+
I understand about lower compression is best to play it safe against knock and detonation but if someone is not looking to upgrade further than the standard APS TT kit, wouldn't running 9.5 psi compression help you make more than 675+ RWHP and still be safe?
Just asking since I see guys here running 9.1 compression and are pretty up there but depending more on the turbo than the engine for power.
Jining check at what PSI they evaluate those 650cc cause the standard is usualy 3bar and the APS system runs on 4bar PSI so that would make them closer to 725cc+
Thanks you for all the replies and the very useful info.
Few questions:
If say I was to upgrade to a twin pump setup so fuel was not limiting me, would these turbos even be able to create enough boost/power for me to actually break my block
Do you think it is wise to invest in the Arias ED pistons? Perhaps in the future I may want more power and go with sleeves.. but I dont really know if 600+ rwhp is even necessary if I want to drive it on the street.
Yes. ED pistons are worth it. Zivman had a regular Arias pistons and they broke. Hence the second engine...
I dont have the unichip, I have a UTEC currently...I know it sucks.. seems turboxs doesnt even update the software anymore... I would ultimately like a Haltech PNP Platinum. Would it be advisable not to even bother trying to tune higher HP with the UTEC and save for the Haltech?
At 600WHP, you should go with full standalone EMS.
Is it safe to say that 650cc should get me ~650rwhp (1hp per 1cc rule?) Without being @ 100% duty cycle would be the ideal..
You are suppose to only run the injectors up to 80% duty cycle I thought. Dude, don't be cheap.. I would think you need at least 800cc since your goal is 600WHP. I went with 1000cc HKS injectors.
Few questions:
If say I was to upgrade to a twin pump setup so fuel was not limiting me, would these turbos even be able to create enough boost/power for me to actually break my block
Do you think it is wise to invest in the Arias ED pistons? Perhaps in the future I may want more power and go with sleeves.. but I dont really know if 600+ rwhp is even necessary if I want to drive it on the street.
Yes. ED pistons are worth it. Zivman had a regular Arias pistons and they broke. Hence the second engine...
I dont have the unichip, I have a UTEC currently...I know it sucks.. seems turboxs doesnt even update the software anymore... I would ultimately like a Haltech PNP Platinum. Would it be advisable not to even bother trying to tune higher HP with the UTEC and save for the Haltech?
At 600WHP, you should go with full standalone EMS.
Is it safe to say that 650cc should get me ~650rwhp (1hp per 1cc rule?) Without being @ 100% duty cycle would be the ideal..

You are suppose to only run the injectors up to 80% duty cycle I thought. Dude, don't be cheap.. I would think you need at least 800cc since your goal is 600WHP. I went with 1000cc HKS injectors.
Last edited by leeboyNY; Oct 11, 2008 at 04:17 AM.




