My build, can I reach 600rwhp?
Different tuning, and BC 3 cams. That was on pump gas, low boost, NO METH! I dont know how your cams compare.
Like Fluid1 said... It depends on what your application is and what your priorities are in determining what's the best cam for you.
There is no single answer for what's the best cam to make 600whp either. It depends on what your turbo setup is. For example, a large single turbo setup like the PowerLab GT37R doesn't even need aftermarket cams to reach 600whp. A single turbo setup produces more top end power, while a twin turbo setup produces more midrange power.
The reason you're hearing so much about the BC stage 2 and stage 3 cams lately is because they seem to shine at making top end power on twin turbo setups. This is something that a lot of twin turbo FI guys have been looking and waiting for. BC cams have shown in Julian/MRC's reviews and on SP's 1,033whp shop car to make power beyond 6500RPM. The first cams I noticed making power above 7000RPM were the BC stage 2 cams, when Julian posted his review. SP is making power with these cams to 8400RPM.
The BC cams are great if you have a twin turbo setup and your priority is top end power. There is nothing wrong with JWT cams or the other brands. As Alberto has posted in his thread, the JWT S1 cams are great if you want nasty midrange power. If you want stock idle quality without having to adjust idle and/or want more low to midrange power, than big top end biased cams aren't for you. Up to this point though, the BC cams are the only brand that have been shown consistently to make power up to 6500RPM and beyond.
Another interesting fact that should be noted is that all 3 members of the 1,000whp club (Injected, SP, and Intense) are using BC stage 2 cams in their shop cars.
All this being said... For the OP's standard APS setup and 600whp goal, I'd recommend the BC stage 2 cams. The stage 2 still has decent idle quality and it won't sacrifice a lot of low to midrange power. If you want to make big numbers with a smaller twin setup, a cam with good top end performance like the BC cams will be essential to achieve your power goals.
There is no single answer for what's the best cam to make 600whp either. It depends on what your turbo setup is. For example, a large single turbo setup like the PowerLab GT37R doesn't even need aftermarket cams to reach 600whp. A single turbo setup produces more top end power, while a twin turbo setup produces more midrange power.
The reason you're hearing so much about the BC stage 2 and stage 3 cams lately is because they seem to shine at making top end power on twin turbo setups. This is something that a lot of twin turbo FI guys have been looking and waiting for. BC cams have shown in Julian/MRC's reviews and on SP's 1,033whp shop car to make power beyond 6500RPM. The first cams I noticed making power above 7000RPM were the BC stage 2 cams, when Julian posted his review. SP is making power with these cams to 8400RPM.
The BC cams are great if you have a twin turbo setup and your priority is top end power. There is nothing wrong with JWT cams or the other brands. As Alberto has posted in his thread, the JWT S1 cams are great if you want nasty midrange power. If you want stock idle quality without having to adjust idle and/or want more low to midrange power, than big top end biased cams aren't for you. Up to this point though, the BC cams are the only brand that have been shown consistently to make power up to 6500RPM and beyond.
Another interesting fact that should be noted is that all 3 members of the 1,000whp club (Injected, SP, and Intense) are using BC stage 2 cams in their shop cars.
All this being said... For the OP's standard APS setup and 600whp goal, I'd recommend the BC stage 2 cams. The stage 2 still has decent idle quality and it won't sacrifice a lot of low to midrange power. If you want to make big numbers with a smaller twin setup, a cam with good top end performance like the BC cams will be essential to achieve your power goals.
nice write up THNAKS
You're welcome. I hope this answers some of your questions.
I'm not personally familiar with the JWT C2 cams. But I looked up their specs. Their duration is 261, but they have higher lift than the BC stage 2.
Here is the link to the specs on all of JWT's cams:
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wol...INCL_REVUP.pdf
I'm not personally familiar with the JWT C2 cams. But I looked up their specs. Their duration is 261, but they have higher lift than the BC stage 2.
Here is the link to the specs on all of JWT's cams:
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wol...INCL_REVUP.pdf
Rude - I got the specs on my cams today and I was hoping for input fro you, bert or quick. Tomei intake is 256 and exhaust is 264. these any good? Any idea on the kind of top end I can expect. I ask those who know since I am a noob in this area. Thank you again. - Chris.
Rude - I got the specs on my cams today and I was hoping for input fro you, bert or quick. Tomei intake is 256 and exhaust is 264. these any good? Any idea on the kind of top end I can expect. I ask those who know since I am a noob in this area. Thank you again. - Chris.
Last edited by RudeG_v2.0; Oct 12, 2008 at 03:51 PM.
Rude - I got the specs on my cams today and I was hoping for input fro you, bert or quick. Tomei intake is 256 and exhaust is 264. these any good? Any idea on the kind of top end I can expect. I ask those who know since I am a noob in this area. Thank you again. - Chris.
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