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Im loving the GT35r kit from all the pics and vids but im worried about not having a cat in the system?
In the uk im gonna need a cat to pass the MOT test has any one come up with a solution to this system not having any cat ??
Also I would be looking for no more than 350WHP would i be able to back the boost off to say around 5psi with out having any bad effect on the turbo/drivability ect.?
Thanks Guys.
In the uk im gonna need a cat to pass the MOT test has any one come up with a solution to this system not having any cat ??
Also I would be looking for no more than 350WHP would i be able to back the boost off to say around 5psi with out having any bad effect on the turbo/drivability ect.?
Thanks Guys.
You should be able to just run off the waste gate then if you are looking to stay around 350. The first pull we did while tuning was around 350ish-360. Think the Wastegate is set for 5 or 6 psi but not exactly sure. I have a manual boost controller set up on mine to increase the boost up to 9psi.
As far as adding a cat into this kit. You might have to check with an exhaust shop to see where exactly they can fit that in. I think UMW350 was trying to put a cat into his set up also but not sure if he was able to or not.
As far as adding a cat into this kit. You might have to check with an exhaust shop to see where exactly they can fit that in. I think UMW350 was trying to put a cat into his set up also but not sure if he was able to or not.
I looked up springs for the Tial 44mm...you can get a .4 bar (5.8 psi), .5 bar (7.25) to name just two options. I am upgrading to the .5 bar during my next retune. Boost controller is the best bet
hey OP have you had any problems with your manual BC? after the buying the kit and gauges i went a little overboard and now have to choose between going HKS EVC with no return fuel system or MBC with return fuel. Any over boost issues? what MBC are you running? thanks
Keith
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hey OP have you had any problems with your manual BC? after the buying the kit and gauges i went a little overboard and now have to choose between going HKS EVC with no return fuel system or MBC with return fuel. Any over boost issues? what MBC are you running? thanks
Keith
Keith
what about them, they are simple and they work. my buddy has one on his grand national holding 30 psi.
people like the EBC's bc you can change them on the fly and they are more dynamic bc a solenoid can open faster/slower
people like the EBC's bc you can change them on the fly and they are more dynamic bc a solenoid can open faster/slower
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werds its just... well manual...
dont risk the fuel for getting a boost controller...txs..did you get the full kit... maybe you can get a solenoid and have utec control boost.. talk to your tuner about this...just be carefull raising boost :0
werds its just... well manual...
dont risk the fuel for getting a boost controller...txs..did you get the full kit... maybe you can get a solenoid and have utec control boost.. talk to your tuner about this...just be carefull raising boost :0
Last edited by IIQuickSilverII; Nov 14, 2008 at 06:44 AM.
Yeah i got the whole PL kit.. Who makes a solenoid? TXS?
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Sorry to reply so late been crazy busy with work. I have a manual boost controller that Performance Factory installed. I'm not sure of the brand of it but they are like $30. They locked it down in place also so no one not even myself can mess with it. As far as I've seen I have yet to see any boost creep or over boosting. It stays pretty much at about 9-9.2. I'm using a Defi BF boost guage so the reading should be pretty on point. Also I'm not running a return fuel system. I don't think I really need one for the amount of power that I'm putting down. Maybe later on I'll get one when I feel that need to want to raise the boost and get alil more power squeezed before having to build the motor up. Also you can get the Boost Solenoid from TXS to have the Utec control boost for you if you are looking for another way to control boost other then a HKS Evc or another form of electronic controller.
Chris whens the next BBQ!
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Last edited by z2envy; Nov 14, 2008 at 01:50 PM.
yeah turboXS, i heard that even gm solenoids work but not sure....i believe turboxs has instructions on their site how to connect it to the utec.
BUT AGAIN if you are playing with changin the boost, talk to your tuner first... you might want to consider a map switch for the UTEC.. this way your maps will incorporate the boost change. I believe this method will be cost effective and good enough for up to 13-15psi max of control, which doesnt seem to be the case for you yet(maybe run a 4psi 8psi maps pump gas on stock block)... eventually when you take it to the next step you will want HKS EVC if you get fcon vpro; or allow Proefi or Haltech to control boost .
BUT AGAIN if you are playing with changin the boost, talk to your tuner first... you might want to consider a map switch for the UTEC.. this way your maps will incorporate the boost change. I believe this method will be cost effective and good enough for up to 13-15psi max of control, which doesnt seem to be the case for you yet(maybe run a 4psi 8psi maps pump gas on stock block
)... eventually when you take it to the next step you will want HKS EVC if you get fcon vpro; or allow Proefi or Haltech to control boost .
the manual boost controller that we use on powerlabs kits are from Forge Motorsports. here is the link. tell them performance factory told you about it.
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/conte...oduct=FMICB051
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/conte...oduct=FMICB051
You should be able to just run off the waste gate then if you are looking to stay around 350. The first pull we did while tuning was around 350ish-360. Think the Wastegate is set for 5 or 6 psi but not exactly sure. I have a manual boost controller set up on mine to increase the boost up to 9psi.
As far as adding a cat into this kit. You might have to check with an exhaust shop to see where exactly they can fit that in. I think UMW350 was trying to put a cat into his set up also but not sure if he was able to or not.
As far as adding a cat into this kit. You might have to check with an exhaust shop to see where exactly they can fit that in. I think UMW350 was trying to put a cat into his set up also but not sure if he was able to or not.
This is what I was worried about. Right now I have Berk HFCs. How could I incorporate their use with this kit?
On the other hand, I do like the fact PL gives you a stock spring to use with a lower PSI off the bat. That way the car is safely drivable if you decide to DIY then head to the tuner.
I was able to have the cat welded into the Downpipe. I used a Vibrant 3" in, 3" out metal core catalizer.
I looked up springs for the Tial 44mm...you can get a .4 bar (5.8 psi), .5 bar (7.25) to name just two options. I am upgrading to the .5 bar during my next retune. Boost controller is the best bet
I looked up springs for the Tial 44mm...you can get a .4 bar (5.8 psi), .5 bar (7.25) to name just two options. I am upgrading to the .5 bar during my next retune. Boost controller is the best bet
super old thread bump. but.. thats what happens when you properly use the search feature lol.
Does nayone have any input as to the potisiton of the temperature sensor near this fmic and radiator?
"I hear " that the ecu changes fuel and pulls timing after a certain outside temperature.. and my gauge is reading extremely ficticiously high temp figures due to heat from those componenets.
Does nayone have any input as to the potisiton of the temperature sensor near this fmic and radiator?
"I hear " that the ecu changes fuel and pulls timing after a certain outside temperature.. and my gauge is reading extremely ficticiously high temp figures due to heat from those componenets.
