Scott Bush & Relentless Autosports: Exposing the Hype, Lies, and Failure
08-06-2009, 11:04 AM
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I knew about Sams... but the other has been very vague info at best - so I wasn’t sure who it was... still waiting for info on that one actually... as far as I recall there was only one vague post with name withheld that was an apparent PM (at least in this thread)...
08-06-2009, 11:08 AM
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So I know i haven't been on here in a while because I honestly just stopped caring about what others think and how rediculas this thread got... "is XKR a doctor or not", "Scott Sucks", "No he doesn't", "look at my website i built on how much I hate Scott"... its just stupid! This whole thread was started to talk about MY Z and what I've had done to it. I've proven the power by posting Dynos, and now I've proven it yet again by not only driving across the country (with out a single problem!!) but going to Z/G meets out here and showing people that have read this thread my dynos. My car is still exactly what I wanted!
08-06-2009, 12:45 PM
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not really, you all did... I posted originally what was done to my car and how happy I was with it... but because it was Scott and Relentless Autosports I fully expected negative feedback. I proved the dynos, I drove it across the country, and I've shown the dynos and the car in action to people out here in Florida... That's support enough for me! I'm not going to sit on this forum all day arguing with people that won't budge in their opinions. Its that simple, you all sit back and bash while I DRIVE around with my car proving that Relentless Autosports can produce a 561+ HP car on an SS box and FMU with no fuel return line and 500cc injectors!
08-06-2009, 01:58 PM
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not really, you all did... I posted originally what was done to my car and how happy I was with it... but because it was Scott and Relentless Autosports I fully expected negative feedback. I proved the dynos, I drove it across the country, and I've shown the dynos and the car in action to people out here in Florida... That's support enough for me! I'm not going to sit on this forum all day arguing with people that won't budge in their opinions. Its that simple, you all sit back and bash while I DRIVE around with my car proving that Relentless Autosports can produce a 561+ HP car on an SS box and FMU with no fuel return line and 500cc injectors!
If you are in a collision and the fuel pump keeps running off the battery voltage, that's bad right guys ?
The working battery voltage in your car now has a controlling effect on how well the tune on your car behaves. Changes in fuel pump pressure now drastically effect pressure at the injectors (which are undersized).
Its your car, you DRIVE it. No way in hell would I ever ride in it, much less cross country.
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08-06-2009, 02:11 PM
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Have you confirmed that the "fuel pump wire upgrade" does not bypass the fuel pump relay shut-off ckt controlled by the factory ECU ?
If you are in a collision and the fuel pump keeps running off the battery voltage, that's bad right guys ?
The working battery voltage in your car now has a controlling effect on how well the tune on your car behaves. Changes in fuel pump pressure now drastically effect pressure at the injectors (which are undersized).
Its your car, you DRIVE it. No way in hell would I ever ride in it, much less cross country.
If you are in a collision and the fuel pump keeps running off the battery voltage, that's bad right guys ?
The working battery voltage in your car now has a controlling effect on how well the tune on your car behaves. Changes in fuel pump pressure now drastically effect pressure at the injectors (which are undersized).
Its your car, you DRIVE it. No way in hell would I ever ride in it, much less cross country.
08-06-2009, 02:17 PM
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That's up for debate, considerable debate.
You say you are in Florida,... Get coachk or someone to look at the wiring in your car. Honestly, please get a second opinion at the wiring and fuel system in your car. For your own safety please do that.
Edit: Everyone should do this. These cars are not perfect and modifying them to 2x factory power is serious business when something goes wrong. I've had two independent shops/dealerships check up behind Sharif on my car. They have not found any problems, in fact I think the dealership has now even adopted a few items from my car and put it on others around town from a safety standpoint of routing fuel lines, heat wrapping, wiring, etc.... Check, double check, triple check. Have fun, but be safe.
You say you are in Florida,... Get coachk or someone to look at the wiring in your car. Honestly, please get a second opinion at the wiring and fuel system in your car. For your own safety please do that.
Edit: Everyone should do this. These cars are not perfect and modifying them to 2x factory power is serious business when something goes wrong. I've had two independent shops/dealerships check up behind Sharif on my car. They have not found any problems, in fact I think the dealership has now even adopted a few items from my car and put it on others around town from a safety standpoint of routing fuel lines, heat wrapping, wiring, etc.... Check, double check, triple check. Have fun, but be safe.
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08-06-2009, 03:29 PM
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That's up for debate, considerable debate.
You say you are in Florida,... Get coachk or someone to look at the wiring in your car. Honestly, please get a second opinion at the wiring and fuel system in your car. For your own safety please do that.
Edit: Everyone should do this. These cars are not perfect and modifying them to 2x factory power is serious business when something goes wrong. I've had two independent shops/dealerships check up behind Sharif on my car. They have not found any problems, in fact I think the dealership has now even adopted a few items from my car and put it on others around town from a safety standpoint of routing fuel lines, heat wrapping, wiring, etc.... Check, double check, triple check. Have fun, but be safe.
You say you are in Florida,... Get coachk or someone to look at the wiring in your car. Honestly, please get a second opinion at the wiring and fuel system in your car. For your own safety please do that.
Edit: Everyone should do this. These cars are not perfect and modifying them to 2x factory power is serious business when something goes wrong. I've had two independent shops/dealerships check up behind Sharif on my car. They have not found any problems, in fact I think the dealership has now even adopted a few items from my car and put it on others around town from a safety standpoint of routing fuel lines, heat wrapping, wiring, etc.... Check, double check, triple check. Have fun, but be safe.
08-06-2009, 04:41 PM
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What were your thoughts on that?
To me, that was a very serious issue because it shows intent.
Welded up pistons and the seriously bad workman ship (confirmed) is one thing.
Cars getting burned to the ground is another.
Both of these demonstrate extremely poor quality of workmanship and wanton disregard... as bad as it is, its not criminal... but the build lists with fake parts, that was given out to more than one customer, the exact same build and parts list that VRT used.... That is on a whole different level.
That crosses the ethics line and demonstrates the writers character (or lack of it). The only way a list like that could be written is if it was done intentionally and with malice.
And it couldn't have been used as many times as it had been and still be a simple mistake.
That fake parts list says more than this entire thread put together.
What are your thoughts on it?
08-06-2009, 05:14 PM
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All shop owners worth a dam worry excessively about this very problem, just ask them. That's what sets a great shop a part from a piece of dirt floor in the middle of the woods.
08-06-2009, 05:51 PM
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Although there has been a lot of gratuitous stone throwing in this thread, did you see the section of this thread that dealt with the build lists that Scott was putting out? The parts lists that had non-existant parts?
What were your thoughts on that?
To me, that was a very serious issue because it shows intent.
Welded up pistons and the seriously bad workman ship (confirmed) is one thing.
Cars getting burned to the ground is another.
Both of these demonstrate extremely poor quality of workmanship and wanton disregard... as bad as it is, its not criminal... but the build lists with fake parts, that was given out to more than one customer, the exact same build and parts list that VRT used.... That is on a whole different level.
That crosses the ethics line and demonstrates the writers character (or lack of it). The only way a list like that could be written is if it was done intentionally and with malice.
And it couldn't have been used as many times as it had been and still be a simple mistake.
That fake parts list says more than this entire thread put together.
What are your thoughts on it?
What were your thoughts on that?
To me, that was a very serious issue because it shows intent.
Welded up pistons and the seriously bad workman ship (confirmed) is one thing.
Cars getting burned to the ground is another.
Both of these demonstrate extremely poor quality of workmanship and wanton disregard... as bad as it is, its not criminal... but the build lists with fake parts, that was given out to more than one customer, the exact same build and parts list that VRT used.... That is on a whole different level.
That crosses the ethics line and demonstrates the writers character (or lack of it). The only way a list like that could be written is if it was done intentionally and with malice.
And it couldn't have been used as many times as it had been and still be a simple mistake.
That fake parts list says more than this entire thread put together.
What are your thoughts on it?
08-07-2009, 10:07 PM
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The general public doesn't have a predisposition on this subject. They are the majority of people viewing this colossal thread.
What do you expect the general public to think? Isn't that important to you or at least Scott (on a business level)?
When you say you heard the rational explanation given by Scott and you also say you support him, you are demonstrating a conflict of statements here.
If Scott is innocent and has a rational explanation for fraudulent documents being used to sell non-existant parts to unsuspecting customers, don't you think the world should know?
What is the general public supposed to think when you keep the extenuating circumstances a secret?
Peoples suspicions will only harden when you say (paraphrasing)
"Scott is innocent of any fraud, fires or terrible workmanship! Scott told me so and I'm keeping his explanation a secret!"
Unless he plans on being in a courtroom, that just doesn't make any sense from a public relations point of view.
I'm not hammering you, I'm just pointing out that not everybody on here is out to get you... but thoes parts lists handed out with all the fake parts... What are people supposed to think of that?
That would be ultimate ownage.
