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Old 03-16-2009, 08:29 AM
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Default harmonic balancer on built motor..upgrade or no?

so from what i recall, once a motor is built, it changes the engines harmonics, and the stock rods and pistons are desinged to be used with the stock harmonic balancer (at least from what i recall from my honda reign). im on a built setup, so would an upgraded one like the fluidampr be necessary (or at least recommended?)?

id prefer to get everything out of the way and taken care of while the motor is out. the last thing id want is to ruin my new motor because of a lack of parts/research, or because of plain negligence lol.
Old 03-16-2009, 08:35 AM
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From what I remember reading, for the level you are going for stick with stock balancer/pullies. Folks that went with the aftermarket ones had problems.

As always, just make sure your bottom end is balanced.

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:57 AM
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I've always used the Fluidampr stuff. Honda, Chevy, Ford, Nissan. Especially if you plan on bumping your revs over stock settings.

Is it required? No. But it's a good preventative measure.
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I spent the money on the fluidampner, its not cheap, but worth the piece of mind as the revs grow as UpRev said. The issue with the aftermarket pullies was with the lightweight UR setup, it was causing hairline cracks in the crank over time IIRC.

BTW UpRev, 100+ miles on just the flash right now and no CELs, my gauge looks so empty without it. It was my constant companion when I had the TN reflash with my old setup.

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Old 03-16-2009, 09:26 AM
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Fluidampr or ATI.. Nothing else......
Old 03-16-2009, 11:09 AM
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I knew it was something just couldn't remember.

As an obvservation though.....one of the highest revving VQ's and the highest HP one is still on a stock balancer.........

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Originally Posted by Cass007
The issue with the aftermarket pullies was with the lightweight UR setup, it was causing hairline cracks in the crank over time IIRC.
Old 03-16-2009, 11:21 AM
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+1 for the Fluid.....for 8000+rpm's worth of abuse before it goes boom in 9000 miles
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Originally Posted by Alberto
+1 for the Fluid.....for 8000+rpm's worth of abuse before it goes boom in 9000 miles
- I sense some sarcasm there.... are you still using it, or have you switched to something better?
Old 03-16-2009, 11:53 AM
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I have been using it since my rebuild in May.

Part of that sentence brings very mixed emotions
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im getting mixed reviews lol. i read about the ur pulleys, and wont touch those, fluidampr seems like another thing to add for safe measure. any other suggestions/opinions?
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Everyone I talked too when I checked around voted "YES" to this mod for built motors in general, especially FI.

ATI is what I used. Fluidampr is also good people have reported.

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Old 03-16-2009, 05:55 PM
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fluidamper or ati for sure. ive seen the stock pulley's turn out to looking like chinese stars.
Old 03-17-2009, 05:16 AM
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I have been running a one-off supercharger specific Unorthodox crank pulley on my Z. I have only about 350 miles on it but I am working on getting an ATI damper made with the same belt setup as I have.

I would vote the use of a damper. A cheap investment to protect a large investment.
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I bought an ATI myself today for my N/A build...now I gotta get rid of this UR one lol
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