forced induction VS. preformance and cost effectiveness
Unless i did every piece of work myself, or had the shop that did in very close proximety (thankfully I do, however haven't needed anything really....whew),
I wouldn't consider FI on these cars.
Shipping your car across the country to get a small leak looked at is a PITA.
tom
I wouldn't consider FI on these cars.
Shipping your car across the country to get a small leak looked at is a PITA.
tom
Unless i did every piece of work myself, or had the shop that did in very close proximety (thankfully I do, however haven't needed anything really....whew),
I wouldn't consider FI on these cars.
Shipping your car across the country to get a small leak looked at is a PITA.
tom
I wouldn't consider FI on these cars.
Shipping your car across the country to get a small leak looked at is a PITA.
tom
keep it as simple as possible...
I trust my current setup in terms of reliability.. for that matter, my car has never "broken down" per say. Never left me stranded even driving it with a broken piston.
Just don't get greedy with power and keep it as simple as possible. By simple I mean:
go with a non sleeved block
no meth or race gas
a good tune with a good EMS
and if building the motor, don't be adventurous. There are cookie cutter builds now:
ED pistons
Eagle rods
HKS head gaskets
L19 studs
The turbo kit you choose is another can of worms. I would have said go APS, but they have revised their kit since I purchased mine so can't say I recommend it any more. Not a huge fan of the JWT setup nor the greddy kit; maybe for no other reasons that asthetics or fit and finish.....
If I were at your place right now, I don't know what I would do. I know I would have kept a lot of money in my pocket keeping my car N/A. That said, the guy that was on a street bike that tried to pull on me on the way home from the store just this afternoon saw nothing but tails.
I trust my current setup in terms of reliability.. for that matter, my car has never "broken down" per say. Never left me stranded even driving it with a broken piston.
Just don't get greedy with power and keep it as simple as possible. By simple I mean:
go with a non sleeved block
no meth or race gas
a good tune with a good EMS
and if building the motor, don't be adventurous. There are cookie cutter builds now:
ED pistons
Eagle rods
HKS head gaskets
L19 studs
The turbo kit you choose is another can of worms. I would have said go APS, but they have revised their kit since I purchased mine so can't say I recommend it any more. Not a huge fan of the JWT setup nor the greddy kit; maybe for no other reasons that asthetics or fit and finish.....
If I were at your place right now, I don't know what I would do. I know I would have kept a lot of money in my pocket keeping my car N/A. That said, the guy that was on a street bike that tried to pull on me on the way home from the store just this afternoon saw nothing but tails.

Last edited by rcdash; Aug 31, 2009 at 04:12 PM.
High Performance and High Reliability are definitely achievable with FI.
Build to a solid plan, listen to those that have gone ahead of you and select parts/vendors/shops with a proven track record. Keep an extra eye on maintenance and safety.
Cost Effective, definitely not.
Build to a solid plan, listen to those that have gone ahead of you and select parts/vendors/shops with a proven track record. Keep an extra eye on maintenance and safety.
Cost Effective, definitely not.
All,
i am currenlty driving an 06 touring 350. In the time that i have had the vehicle i have looked at many turbo kits as well as fuel systems and ECU flashes. The problem i am having is i cant seem to find anything that i can think i can trust. Thus i am turning to you. i am just curious as to what fellow owners have chosen and what they reccomend for someone whom deffinately want's to go forced induction.
i am currenlty driving an 06 touring 350. In the time that i have had the vehicle i have looked at many turbo kits as well as fuel systems and ECU flashes. The problem i am having is i cant seem to find anything that i can think i can trust. Thus i am turning to you. i am just curious as to what fellow owners have chosen and what they reccomend for someone whom deffinately want's to go forced induction.
I agree with thom000001 about doing all the workyourself or having it being able to be worked on CORRECTLY nearby..
I've talked to a lot of people that have done the whole sent the car away, tuned, built, blah blah. Which is great if you have the money( which is a lot), but you still have the problem of your car being 800 miles from the solution WHEN something goes wrong.
Fortunately, a lot of the reason people are sending there cars that far away is that they are getting a reputable shop to do it, so problems are minimized. But hey, **** happens. And it will.
At the beginning its really cost effective, but theres quite a curve to that
i guess it depends on what your goals are
****, Alberto slapped a single turbo on and ran 11's. sounds pretty cost effective to me. Then the addiction came haha....
I've talked to a lot of people that have done the whole sent the car away, tuned, built, blah blah. Which is great if you have the money( which is a lot), but you still have the problem of your car being 800 miles from the solution WHEN something goes wrong.
Fortunately, a lot of the reason people are sending there cars that far away is that they are getting a reputable shop to do it, so problems are minimized. But hey, **** happens. And it will.
At the beginning its really cost effective, but theres quite a curve to that
****, Alberto slapped a single turbo on and ran 11's. sounds pretty cost effective to me. Then the addiction came haha....
The JWT kit has been said to be the kit, that if the 350z came turbo charged, this is how nissan would have done it. Although the kit may not be the most efficient in terms of max power, it is a very thourough kit with alot of safety features for your vehicles engine. Like the use of both oil and water feeding the turbochargers to keep down on turbo temp and prevent the need of turbo timers or cool down runs.
Just remember, if you build a motor for 700hp and slap on a greddy kit or any other high HP kit and run 700 hp, you are at 100% of what the engine can handle. That leaves no margin of error. Build it to withstand more power than you will want to run!!! Regardless of tune, Tourqe and HP will break stuff!!
Just remember, if you build a motor for 700hp and slap on a greddy kit or any other high HP kit and run 700 hp, you are at 100% of what the engine can handle. That leaves no margin of error. Build it to withstand more power than you will want to run!!! Regardless of tune, Tourqe and HP will break stuff!!
The JWT kit has been said to be the kit, that if the 350z came turbo charged, this is how nissan would have done it. Although the kit may not be the most efficient in terms of max power, it is a very thourough kit with alot of safety features for your vehicles engine. Like the use of both oil and water feeding the turbochargers to keep down on turbo temp and prevent the need of turbo timers or cool down runs.
Just remember, if you build a motor for 700hp and slap on a greddy kit or any other high HP kit and run 700 hp, you are at 100% of what the engine can handle. That leaves no margin of error. Build it to withstand more power than you will want to run!!! Regardless of tune, Tourqe and HP will break stuff!!
Just remember, if you build a motor for 700hp and slap on a greddy kit or any other high HP kit and run 700 hp, you are at 100% of what the engine can handle. That leaves no margin of error. Build it to withstand more power than you will want to run!!! Regardless of tune, Tourqe and HP will break stuff!!
, running the 700bb myself. However, you are referencing the Nissan Sport article from years ago that tested 530bb turbos on a stock motor. It's a bit dated at this point to say the least. The JWT kit isn't bad but there are better options out there now. I like the JWT kit but let's see I changed the turbos (530bb to 700bb), the EMS, fuel system, intake piping for dual CAI, charge pipe to house MAF (blow through instead of pull through), exhaust piping to remove the downpipe restriction, windshield reservoir, yada, yada...
Let's see what was left stock as part of the original JWT kit as tested by Nissan Sport: the dual G35 intercooler and manifolds! Nice - and that's what I felt was the right way to achieve "just" 500+ whp out of this kit. It may have been a good option at one time, but not anymore...
EDIT: and I haven't heard of stock sleeves on a built motor failing at 700 whp, so not sure where you got that number from. I know several have taken basic stock sleeve builds over 800-900 whp...
Last edited by rcdash; Sep 1, 2009 at 06:20 AM.
on the above. Each kit has a benefit and downfall. If you are looking for fit & finish the APS kits are hard to beat (good directions too), but the turbos suck wind over stock block power. Still, the TT Tuner kit and some Garrett BB upgrades are cheaper than most of the other kits out there.Its just preference and expected power level for the most part.




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