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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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go PL and call it a day. For what you described, and alberto stated, it fits your needs. not to mention you will be in vacuum most of the time unless you have a heavy foot which will be "safer" for your stock block. The PL kit has ALOT of room to play with also, thats why i am ordering mine hopefully soon
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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Its better to address the MPG issues now instead of spending 7K on a TT and whine about it later. Besides, I didn't ask a question about MPG, I simply stated what I have learned on this site using the "search" feature. It you feel a need to cry about it keep it moving.

Now, Aced16 thanks that sounds good I'm hearing good things, and yes I know about the vacuum so that's another reason why I would probably go with PL ST.

Alberto thanks for the wisdom.

Got a lot of researching to do, which is fine since its gonna take me a few months to get my money together. If you guys got anything more please post, if not I will be bringing this up later on.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SGS350Z
No used parts remember? Ether way im liking what im reading about the powerlab single turbo kit. I figure low boost on my stock engine will still give me 400whp. One thing i didnt think about, what about the clutch? How does the stock clutch hold up in relation to hp?

*edit: i looked up the clutch issue. 350-400whp max on stock clutch.
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Another reason tt might not be for me. I came across some thread that stated that tt boosts in lower rpms than single so i would be boosting more often under normal driving conditions, which would prob kill my mpg.
Good to know that your searching , search good and then decide
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Ill help you choose.. Go for an all out full Longblock build/TT!!

Engine build 12-15K
Twin Turbo 8-12K
Clutch/Flywheel 3K
Exhaust 1.5K
EMS/Haltech 2K
Injectors 1K
RFS/Walbro 1.5K
HKS BC 700
Carbon Diff 2K
Defi Gauges 1K
Misc parts 1K
Tuning 600-1K
Labor 2-4K

Thats about 47K and I know Im missing stuff.... Keep saving!!

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Boy the truth hurts 47k wow lol. I was in the same boat as you didn't know which F/I setup I want it for my stock block. Need less to say I went with the Vortech S/C I am happy with my choice, but I will eventually want more power. MPG and longevity is a issue to me on my setup, 16 in the city and 22 on the highway is not so bad lol. Furthermore, I have the best F/I choice for longevity due to the low tq number . I don't go in to boost that offend in less i am next to a C5 at a red light. So the choice is simple for me I will be going with a ST when I build my block. I am never in boost in less I want it and best of all it will come in hard when I need it most. I can only speak for myself I hope what ever you pick you will be happy with. F/I is F/I so it will be a BIG differents from your N/A setup. Take care.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tgunsg35
Boy the truth hurts 47k wow lol. I was in the same boat as you didn't know which F/I setup I want it for my stock block. Need less to say I went with the Vortech S/C I am happy with my choice, but I will eventually want more power. MPG and longevity is a issue to me on my setup, 16 in the city and 22 on the highway is not so bad lol. Furthermore, I have the best F/I choice for longevity due to the low tq number . I don't go in to boost that offend in less i am next to a C5 at a red light. So the choice is simple for me I will be going with a ST when I build my block. I am never in boost in less I want it and best of all it will come in hard when I need it most. I can only speak for myself I hope what ever you pick you will be happy with. F/I is F/I so it will be a BIG differents from your N/A setup. Take care.
Thanks man, I don't think 47K is right. At least not for me. 47K is probably for a vehicle that is not a daily driver and strictly a race car.

But anyway, I gotta ask you: I know that SC "robs" the engine of hp to power it, does that bother you at all? Just wondering, I came across this during my search for FI. Thanks!
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay'Z
Ill help you choose.. Go for an all out full Longblock build/TT!!

Engine build 12-15K
Twin Turbo 8-12K
Clutch/Flywheel 3K
Exhaust 1.5K
EMS/Haltech 2K
Injectors 1K
RFS/Walbro 1.5K
HKS BC 700
Carbon Diff 2K
Defi Gauges 1K
Misc parts 1K
Tuning 600-1K
Labor 2-4K

Thats about 47K and I know Im missing stuff.... Keep saving!!
The truff hurts donit!!!
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Old May 1, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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No really, s/c is a great start for me. I had 60k on my block before I went f/i so I want it the safe power. Yes, I would like more tq, but for what I paid to go f/I I have no complains .
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Old May 1, 2009 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tgunsg35
No really, s/c is a great start for me. I had 60k on my block before I went f/i so I want it the safe power. Yes, I would like more tq, but for what I paid to go f/I I have no complains .
Nice. Just wondering. I'd guess I better get to saving I got $47,000 to go HAHA
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Old May 1, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SGS350Z
Nice. Just wondering. I'd guess I better get to saving I got $47,000 to go HAHA
I hear LOL. I got my f/I for under 6.5k that's including install from one of the best speed shops on the forum . Used is not a bad name it's all in where you find it and how good someone has taken care of it. Do your research find out what you want to spend and how often you will put your car in boost. Then the fun part. Do it!
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Old May 1, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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City driving, um well....does better than a vortec at least lol.
I get 17 street.


I love my Vortech. I just hate how it sounds. I really think my desire to make my car quieter will lead to to turbos before my desire for more power.

Vortechs (in general) are reliable with a decent output. I got a good deal on mine and figured it was better than going NA.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aced16
go PL and call it a day. For what you described, and alberto stated, it fits your needs. not to mention you will be in vacuum most of the time unless you have a heavy foot which will be "safer" for your stock block. The PL kit has ALOT of room to play with also, thats why i am ordering mine hopefully soon
<p><b>+1</b></p><p>The PowerLab kit has as much power capability with a built motor as any of the TT kits mentioned in this thread.</p><p>Some additional advice... Just run wastegate spring pressure on your stock block and <b>don't get a boost controller UNTIL YOU BUILD YOUR MOTOR!</b> Boost is addictive like crack cocaine. Most guys just can't resist the urge to turn up the boost on the boost controller, which is a surefire way to blow a stock motor.</p>
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Rude, that is great advice.. No BC would combat the temptation.. I doubt many will resist though or adhere..
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Rude, that is great advice.. No BC would combat the temptation.. I doubt many will resist though or adhere..
Thanks Jay. Sadly, many don't and it becomes a lesson learned the hard (and expensive) way.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Good point Rude I'll keep that in mind. Hey real quick, how many guys were told "you're stupid you're gonna blow your motor" when you said you were saving for a turbo?

I hate that sh*t!
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
<p><b>+1</b></p><p>The PowerLab kit has as much power capability with a built motor as any of the TT kits mentioned in this thread.</p><p>Some additional advice... Just run wastegate spring pressure on your stock block and <b>don't get a boost controller UNTIL YOU BUILD YOUR MOTOR!</b> Boost is addictive like crack cocaine. Most guys just can't resist the urge to turn up the boost on the boost controller, which is a surefire way to blow a stock motor.</p>
I don't mean to go off topic at all. But since this is about his Turbo build and which to get. If Powerlab has same capabilities as TT's, why do majority of the builds go with TT's instead of the PL Kit. One thing I noticed, isn't the PL Kit cheaper then TT kits anyway?
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Old May 3, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Good question i wanna know too
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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by graffkid732
I don't mean to go off topic at all. But since this is about his Turbo build and which to get. If Powerlab has same capabilities as TT's, why do majority of the builds go with TT's instead of the PL Kit. One thing I noticed, isn't the PL Kit cheaper then TT kits anyway?
my opinion is that TT is more balanced...TT is more ideal for road courses but you still would do good at a straight away track...ST is more for drag racing..i know that i wouldnt want my turbo to spool up and kick hard while im taking a turn causing a loss of traction..lol.TT is sexier to most also..Im going the different route though...be different as i always say...
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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by graffkid732
I don't mean to go off topic at all. But since this is about his Turbo build and which to get. If Powerlab has same capabilities as TT's, why do majority of the builds go with TT's instead of the PL Kit. One thing I noticed, isn't the PL Kit cheaper then TT kits anyway?
I thought that was explained already.
Ask yourself. When does f/I servers you best? Apply that to your research and you will find your answer.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Hi instead of making a new thread I thought I would ask in this one..

Picking up a 350z hopefully this week (if I get there and its already sold I will cut myself), how much should I pay for a 2005 automatic roadster 28k miles? It's listed at 22 but that seems a bit high. My end goal is to put a turbo kit on it and maybe some wheels and call it a day. What is better for engine longevity? TT or single? My friend said TT is actually safer since the single really slams when it comes on. I plan on running really low boost (5 at max) and trying not to go above 350 hp..

I know it seems like a waste but I just want that BOV sound and a little extra oomph. I know this post probably makes many of you want to smash your heads into a wall.. or my head into a wall.. but I was all ready to get the turbonetics single.. then my friend said the greddy TT was a better idea for my goals.

Any thoughts?
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