Yet another Vortech Blown Thread .... possible solution inside
06-15-2009, 09:28 AM
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As far as oil temps go keep in mind that I am running a rev-up to 7100 RPM with the 34/28 pulley setup. This means I am constantly spinning the blower faster at all RPMs. I can see the direct correlation between the speed the blower spins and my oil temps.
An example...hwy driving in 5th gear I will see 220 on a consistent basis. If I get on it and push it I will hit 240 for a couple minutes. If I spend most of my time in 6th gear my temp will drop to around 195-205.
BTW I peaked at 220 at the track. I did 2 runs in 20 mins and shut the car down while waiting.
so, I think the rev-up + pulley combo is why I am seeing higher temps than most. I think the average of 220 in 90+ degree weather is ok, but I would rather see 200. I've been thinking about adding a small cooler to S/C feed line. I believe JET MECH has a setup like this.
An example...hwy driving in 5th gear I will see 220 on a consistent basis. If I get on it and push it I will hit 240 for a couple minutes. If I spend most of my time in 6th gear my temp will drop to around 195-205.
BTW I peaked at 220 at the track. I did 2 runs in 20 mins and shut the car down while waiting.
so, I think the rev-up + pulley combo is why I am seeing higher temps than most. I think the average of 220 in 90+ degree weather is ok, but I would rather see 200. I've been thinking about adding a small cooler to S/C feed line. I believe JET MECH has a setup like this.
220 on the track isn't bad. I thought it peaked that on daily driving.
Ya, a straight through inline oil cooler would be sweet. Could help it out a bit. I wouldn't get one with bends in it. not that it would have problems, but i wouldn't want to get an air pocket or something in there. They have some really long straight through coolers that would probably mount perfect under your intercooler.
06-15-2009, 09:29 AM
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oh ya, what size are the lines you are running to your cooler? you said you had a sandwich plate and i know most come with 1/8" ports. I run 3/4" ports on my sandwich plate and that's what will feed my cooler for some nice high flow.
06-15-2009, 09:57 AM
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you could probably throw a local shop some cash to do it for you in one of their presses.
ah, i figured you were in a hot area by the way you spoke.
I'm non-rev up. That might make a difference. I'm running a 3.12 pulley with stock cogs. I also have headers, test pipes, full exhaust with everything up in the engine bay heat wrapped. The motor flows pretty good so i would imagine it stays cool for that reason.
ah, i figured you were in a hot area by the way you spoke.
I'm non-rev up. That might make a difference. I'm running a 3.12 pulley with stock cogs. I also have headers, test pipes, full exhaust with everything up in the engine bay heat wrapped. The motor flows pretty good so i would imagine it stays cool for that reason.
06-15-2009, 10:04 AM
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ya, well we can fix that if you give me your 34tooth cog. i'd take the sacrifice and switch ya
220 on the track isn't bad. I thought it peaked that on daily driving.
Ya, a straight through inline oil cooler would be sweet. Could help it out a bit. I wouldn't get one with bends in it. not that it would have problems, but i wouldn't want to get an air pocket or something in there. They have some really long straight through coolers that would probably mount perfect under your intercooler.
220 on the track isn't bad. I thought it peaked that on daily driving.
Ya, a straight through inline oil cooler would be sweet. Could help it out a bit. I wouldn't get one with bends in it. not that it would have problems, but i wouldn't want to get an air pocket or something in there. They have some really long straight through coolers that would probably mount perfect under your intercooler.
It peaked at 220 on the track shutting it down between runs
06-15-2009, 11:59 AM
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ah, the heat wrap should help! that left header can put off some pretty good heat towards the vortech blower.
heat wrap cooled my engine bay down a lot. It sucked wrapping it though and putting headers on, but it helped.
heat wrap cooled my engine bay down a lot. It sucked wrapping it though and putting headers on, but it helped.
06-16-2009, 05:28 AM
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I don't know why I didn't think about this before. I almost forgot I had cipher. I did some ecu logging and saw a max oil temp of 210, but on my autometer nexus I saw 228. 18 degrees is a big difference. Anybody know the location the ecu gets it's oil temp from?
06-16-2009, 08:01 AM
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I think that's the oil pressure sensor. If thats the case then my oil temps now and before would be around 20 degrees lower which means if I saw a 260 peak it was really only 240. Sheesh so many variables.
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All I can say is i hope someone can fix the problem. I went through 3 of those hunks of junk [vortechs] in 5k. Sure they fixed it but got pissy when I told them they had a pos. This was 1 of the reasons I got rid of the car . Other than wanting a zo6 
OH and mine was stock.
OH and mine was stock.
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All I can say is i hope someone can fix the problem. I went through 3 of those hunks of junk [vortechs] in 5k. Sure they fixed it but got pissy when I told them they had a pos. This was 1 of the reasons I got rid of the car . Other than wanting a zo6 OH and mine was stock.
OH and mine was stock.
08-01-2009, 07:11 AM
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see, people also have to realize that vortech makes superchargers for other cars as well (mustangs are a huge crowd) so the amount of people that they have issues with verses the amount they don't is actually very small.
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Sorry if im bumping this thread.. but does anyone! know where I can get the output shaft seal for the vortech? ( smaller one ) . the seal from superchargerrebuilds.com arent the same.. and they go every 600 miles.. Iam SICK of using them. I just want the OEM vortech seal.
Thanks a lot guys!
p.s- OP, how are the new bearings?
Thanks a lot guys!
p.s- OP, how are the new bearings?
09-04-2009, 10:55 AM
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Sorry if im bumping this thread.. but does anyone! know where I can get the output shaft seal for the vortech? ( smaller one ) . the seal from superchargerrebuilds.com arent the same.. and they go every 600 miles.. Iam SICK of using them. I just want the OEM vortech seal.
Thanks a lot guys!
p.s- OP, how are the new bearings?
Thanks a lot guys!
p.s- OP, how are the new bearings?
You might wanna PM to strdum1, maybe he can help.
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I will shoot him a PM.. typing from my phone sux.. It just blows.. everything is perfectly fine except that seal... the OEM factory seal on the output shaft is a LOT more heavy duty and its made out of graphite, unlike the superchargerrebuilds.com seal that is all rubber.. and its only good for like 600 miles. =/ . the input shaft seal in other hand there identically the same. Go figure.
Sorry for highjacking.. didnt wanted to make a new thread
Sorry for highjacking.. didnt wanted to make a new thread