How much HP on Turbonetics kit have you seen?
yeah 11psi on a tune that its shaky even at 8psi, then build the motor and run 11psi and still keep the same flash. your da man/thread. dont take off topic. we all know you hate the tn kit because it blew your motor twice on a flash
. i hope you bought yourself at least a utec for your build
. to the O.P if thats what you have dont worry about what people think its just forums.
. i hope you bought yourself at least a utec for your build. to the O.P if thats what you have dont worry about what people think its just forums.The kit used to always throw me into Limp mode for high intake air temps, not only that but couple of members lost their wastegates due to their welds breaking, luckily i had mine hanging by a safty wire. Lets move on to boost creep where i saw my psi gradually increase from day to day from 8psi to 11 psi when my motor blew. Lets also talk about how many have oil seal problems and burn oil.
Why would i sell the TN in the first place, cuz its ****. Get powerlab, greddy, PE or GTM kit(God of kits). OP doesnt have to listen to me, he can find out all the horror of TN from research.
One of the biggest reasons why the TN kit is limited to "only" 500whp is because it has a smallish turbo ( a T3 Stage5 60-1 correct? ). This turbo is pretty much maxed at that power level. You CAN get a T3/T67 HO P-trim to bolt on to the TN kit and it should be able to go to 600whp assuming the intercooler can handle the flow.
You used a reflash on built motor/thread. Dont keep off topic.
ok well lets start with boost creap, heat soak, weak welds, limited power, turbo seal issues. The tn is only good for show, hence the nice black pipes and a shiny turbo with red letters. So pretty.
The kit used to always throw me into limp mode for high intake air temps, not only that but couple of members lost their wastegates due to their welds breaking, luckily i had mine hanging by a safty wire. Lets move on to boost creep where i saw my psi gradually increase from day to day from 8psi to 11 psi when my motor blew. Lets also talk about how many have oil seal problems and burn oil.
Why would i sell the tn in the first place, cuz its ****. Get powerlab, greddy, pe or gtm kit(god of kits). Op doesnt have to listen to me, he can find out all the horror of tn from research.
The kit used to always throw me into limp mode for high intake air temps, not only that but couple of members lost their wastegates due to their welds breaking, luckily i had mine hanging by a safty wire. Lets move on to boost creep where i saw my psi gradually increase from day to day from 8psi to 11 psi when my motor blew. Lets also talk about how many have oil seal problems and burn oil.
Why would i sell the tn in the first place, cuz its ****. Get powerlab, greddy, pe or gtm kit(god of kits). Op doesnt have to listen to me, he can find out all the horror of tn from research.
I'm not getting off topic. I'm simply stating that if you want to push the TN kit, you will run into problems and some of those problems with the TN are as i have stated. Only few have hit 500+ with TN but many have hit 500+ with any other kit.
And you're only defense of the TN is my reflash. Honestly, what are good qualities of the TN besides the price. LOL
And you're only defense of the TN is my reflash. Honestly, what are good qualities of the TN besides the price. LOL
Last edited by 350 Rookie; May 28, 2009 at 04:44 AM.
Aside from all the blunt comments.
Had to kit for 3 years. Melted my PS and AC a few times on long drives. Had CEL's constantly (1274/1283) that everyone else couldn't get rid of. The reflash was weaksauce. If you're gonna do it up, you're going to need a Utec ATLEAST.
I think it's an ok kit if you're on a budget and don't want to step up to a built motor. You're not going to get anything more than ~430 on a DD. Those ~500 numbers are all DynoJet + Meth Injection numbers. You really can't set a HP goal and go out trying to attain it because everyone on the forums has different dyno setups.. [Insert Dyno #'s argument here] If you're going to do a built motor you mind as well get a different kit. I compared the TN kit to my Greddy kit side to side on piping etc.. The TN piping was hella small. SFR makes a sick add on kit but for the price of the upgrade + your TN kit.. you mind as well sell the TN kit and buy a Plabs kit.
Whatever people say they can make on it.. it's probably from lots of modification and lots of money you could've spent on a better kit. Craig (taurran) has a siiickkk semi-TN setup.. making insane power, but he changed so much and spent so much labor/$$ it's not even half of a TN kit anymore.
There's a reason why TN kits have lost their popularity and the Greddy has been still holding its place as the base TT kit to get since it came out (2004?).
There are better options to the TN kit, Plabs... comes to mind.. There are no perfect kits so.. whatever you can pay for and whoever is able to install it. Dyno numbers can be photoshopped =) If you're on a budget like most of the people on the boards, you will want reliability first. I don't mind a low reading dyno sheet as long as I know my car won't blow up and cost me another 10-15k to rebuild.
Had to kit for 3 years. Melted my PS and AC a few times on long drives. Had CEL's constantly (1274/1283) that everyone else couldn't get rid of. The reflash was weaksauce. If you're gonna do it up, you're going to need a Utec ATLEAST.
I think it's an ok kit if you're on a budget and don't want to step up to a built motor. You're not going to get anything more than ~430 on a DD. Those ~500 numbers are all DynoJet + Meth Injection numbers. You really can't set a HP goal and go out trying to attain it because everyone on the forums has different dyno setups.. [Insert Dyno #'s argument here] If you're going to do a built motor you mind as well get a different kit. I compared the TN kit to my Greddy kit side to side on piping etc.. The TN piping was hella small. SFR makes a sick add on kit but for the price of the upgrade + your TN kit.. you mind as well sell the TN kit and buy a Plabs kit.
Whatever people say they can make on it.. it's probably from lots of modification and lots of money you could've spent on a better kit. Craig (taurran) has a siiickkk semi-TN setup.. making insane power, but he changed so much and spent so much labor/$$ it's not even half of a TN kit anymore.
There's a reason why TN kits have lost their popularity and the Greddy has been still holding its place as the base TT kit to get since it came out (2004?).
There are better options to the TN kit, Plabs... comes to mind.. There are no perfect kits so.. whatever you can pay for and whoever is able to install it. Dyno numbers can be photoshopped =) If you're on a budget like most of the people on the boards, you will want reliability first. I don't mind a low reading dyno sheet as long as I know my car won't blow up and cost me another 10-15k to rebuild.
Last edited by down_shift; May 28, 2009 at 09:13 AM.
After what? lol.. you mind as well sell the kit now and start your custom kit.. no reason to spend more money on your current setup if you're going to dump it for something else..
One of the biggest reasons why the TN kit is limited to "only" 500whp is because it has a smallish turbo ( a T3 Stage5 60-1 correct? ). This turbo is pretty much maxed at that power level. You CAN get a T3/T67 HO P-trim to bolt on to the TN kit and it should be able to go to 600whp assuming the intercooler can handle the flow.
It can't be THAT bad if they have been able to pretty much max out what thay turbo is capable of. 520+whp on a 60-1 is not bad at all.
its not so much the turbo.. its the piping.. i believe Craig had a GTK Turbo capable of 700whp ... they couldn't make past 530whp with the current piping.. they had to redo every single piece of piping to even make 650whp.. and another guy in MD did the samething too.. he couldn't make power on the current piping
its not so much the turbo.. its the piping.. i believe Craig had a GTK Turbo capable of 700whp ... they couldn't make past 530whp with the current piping.. they had to redo every single piece of piping to even make 650whp.. and another guy in MD did the samething too.. he couldn't make power on the current piping
o.p take everything said into consideration. but if your on abudget and already own the t.n kit you might as well use it. it wont yield you immense powerrr 600+whp but it can get you to 50xswhp/tq. unlike alot of people im happy running my merely 7.3psi open tial wastegate dump . plenty of fun for me, plenty of cars i beat. the only reason im going with the built block is because i had the funds and instead of upgrading to a powerlab i spent my 5k on a motor to make reliable. maybe next income would be powerlab for me but if you on the same boat then enjoy the hell out of the kit. might as well?
its not so much the turbo.. its the piping.. i believe Craig had a GTK Turbo capable of 700whp ... they couldn't make past 530whp with the current piping.. they had to redo every single piece of piping to even make 650whp.. and another guy in MD did the samething too.. he couldn't make power on the current piping
and its only 500whp capable with plenty of supporting mods. You cant just pull 500whp out the box. you need bigger injectors, atleast methanol injecion, bigger downpipe, etc
O.P From past experince with this kit i melted ac line twice,had to have turbo seals replaced 3 times, and tryd rerouting the oil return line several ways and it always ended up kinked.All of this happend within 800 miles of having the kit installed after a good tune that only put down 355whp. The kit really isnt worth the money if your looking for FI at a decent price pick up a used SC like vortech or procharger. just my 
its not so much the turbo.. its the piping.. i believe Craig had a GTK Turbo capable of 700whp ... they couldn't make past 530whp with the current piping.. they had to redo every single piece of piping to even make 650whp.. and another guy in MD did the samething too.. he couldn't make power on the current piping