G35 Version 3.0: GTM Stage 5 TT
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Not asking you to blame anyone.
do those kits come with oil restrictors? how did you figure it wasnt the drain? I suppose it could only be Garrets fault if the oil passages in the turbo were clogged. What has GTM said about this (prolly that they never have had that problem with their kits and it must be an install error, I assume)
So with excessive oil in the turbine, does that mean the turbo is ruined?
Injected did the install? If not why didnt you take it back to your installer?
Theres no dragging names thru the mud when you are just describing what happened. We all know its a GTM kit.
Good luck!
do those kits come with oil restrictors? how did you figure it wasnt the drain? I suppose it could only be Garrets fault if the oil passages in the turbo were clogged. What has GTM said about this (prolly that they never have had that problem with their kits and it must be an install error, I assume)
So with excessive oil in the turbine, does that mean the turbo is ruined?
Injected did the install? If not why didnt you take it back to your installer?
Theres no dragging names thru the mud when you are just describing what happened. We all know its a GTM kit.
Good luck!
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I did the install myself, everything was exact to the gtm instructions, hal can confirm that i did a fine job installing it myself and that the return lines actually had a better return angle than on the gtm instructions. Injected was originally supposed to only tune it but they have been very nice and went out of their way to help me out.
The oil was draining bc we took the return line off and started the car and a good amount of oil was draining from the system. Oil level was just below 5 qts on an aps oil ok so it wasn't that either
The kit didn't come with oil restrictiors, nor did the instructions say anything about running one
The oil was draining bc we took the return line off and started the car and a good amount of oil was draining from the system. Oil level was just below 5 qts on an aps oil ok so it wasn't that either
The kit didn't come with oil restrictiors, nor did the instructions say anything about running one
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Interesting, hope you get it all straightened out!
If the oil was coming out the drain, how did you determine it was pooling in the turbine? Or was it just not draining fast enough?
I'm trying to picture how this all works as this kinda install will be in my near future most likely.
Sounds like you'll have to go thru GTM for everything. Good luck!
If the oil was coming out the drain, how did you determine it was pooling in the turbine? Or was it just not draining fast enough?
I'm trying to picture how this all works as this kinda install will be in my near future most likely.
Sounds like you'll have to go thru GTM for everything. Good luck!
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Your turbos may not be bad and the seals may be ok. The ability to seal in oil in the turbos is a function of pressure on either side of the seal. Is it leaking on the compressor side also?
What oil pressure and oil weight are you running? Did you upgrade the feed lines? You used all GTM parts? Moving up to a 15W-50 oil and putting on a restrictor may fix the leak. The BB turbos don't need too much oil to operate unlike the journal bearing turbos. Sam is very meticulous about the design of the kits and a number of GTM kits are on the road, so this is surprising if it's a design issue but it's possible your car is a little different - oil pump a little stronger, oil a bit thinner, etc. Send Sam all the data you can - he will take care of you as best he can.
What oil pressure and oil weight are you running? Did you upgrade the feed lines? You used all GTM parts? Moving up to a 15W-50 oil and putting on a restrictor may fix the leak. The BB turbos don't need too much oil to operate unlike the journal bearing turbos. Sam is very meticulous about the design of the kits and a number of GTM kits are on the road, so this is surprising if it's a design issue but it's possible your car is a little different - oil pump a little stronger, oil a bit thinner, etc. Send Sam all the data you can - he will take care of you as best he can.
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I am using rotella 5w-50 and yes they are all gtm supplied parts. There was no oil on the conpressor side but a massive amount on the turbine side. The problem with just throwing restrictors in there is the amount of labor it will take to get the turbos back out again. I might as well have them checked while they are out so I won't have any headaches later
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like Raj said, there are soooooo many GTM kitted cars on the road. If there are not supposed to be restrictors, then they arent needed. Guess we'll have to wait for GTM to chime in. The chances of 2 DOA turbos is essentially zero.
If restrictors are the fix, labor is free anyhow
I'd agree on having the turbos inspected. Last thing you want is a seal goin bad on ya in short order.
If restrictors are the fix, labor is free anyhow
I'd agree on having the turbos inspected. Last thing you want is a seal goin bad on ya in short order.
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Unfortunatley labor isn't free, I left the car at injected because it would cost a considerable amount of money trailering the car back and forth and I was honestly just fed up and frustrated with the install that I didn't want to touch the car anymore
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This is an unfortunate event to say the least. We have dozens of kits on the road, and at least 4 with the GT30's. We have never had this issue and will take care of anything that is our fault. The turbos do come with restrictors in the center section from Garret. As Raj stated this car could be making higher oil pressure than normal, or something else could be a factor.
Once we get the turbos back we can diagnose the problem, and take care of it - We just want to get the customer back on the road ASAP.
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Once we get the turbos back we can diagnose the problem, and take care of it - We just want to get the customer back on the road ASAP.
Thank you,
-George
GT Motorsports
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Update: 9 days later the turbos are finally on their way to Garrett for inspection. I hope that they do quick work because I have to have the car done by the 24th for the Redline Time Attack in Nashville
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The main reason I went with a single turbo cause if something goes wrong its easy to pull. Unlike twins which involves pulling the motor all the time. I only want to pull the motor once,knocking on wood as I type. At least you will be on the road by fall when the weather is great for FI. The guys down at Injected are great. They will take care of you. Good luck with everything.
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The main reason I went with a single turbo cause if something goes wrong its easy to pull. Unlike twins which involves pulling the motor all the time. I only want to pull the motor once,knocking on wood as I type. At least you will be on the road by fall when the weather is great for FI. The guys down at Injected are great. They will take care of you. Good luck with everything.
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Found a link.
http://www.importalliance.org/
Edit: Damn,, I need new front tires there shot. And my Z is setup for drag right now. I still might go Saturday and Sunday to watch looks like alot of fun.
http://www.importalliance.org/
Edit: Damn,, I need new front tires there shot. And my Z is setup for drag right now. I still might go Saturday and Sunday to watch looks like alot of fun.
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