pipni

What number have got garrett turbochargets from APS - normal and extreme kit? Thanks.

doug

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wat

coachk

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doug...She's kinda cute, so be kind to her. Plus she's really into the whole Z thing and has a nice car.

OP...I have the APS TT

doug

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wat

coachk

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wat wat




























and don't say ITB

doug

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str8dum1

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^^ like that wasnt predictable
LOL

Speqz

you should kill yourself just for posting this. /thread

pipni

Sorry, my English is very poor. I have APS TT kit. I want know which APS uses turbochargers? Garrett GT2871R ?

SH Luciano

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pipni, i don't think they were talking to you...i think they were talking to the individual that posted the video.

Zivman

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those where the turbos on the orginal base kit... they are actually a 25/35 hybrid, but called a GT2871.

The base kit now comes with different turbos. It seems they are only good on a stock block. They are journal bearing turbos now and have very limited HP potential compared to the garrett BB turbos that the setup used to include

tiguy99

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Pics or ban! Lol j/k (no not really!)

A Quick dig on their site yielded this

http://www.airpowersystems.com/350z/...350z_tech1.htm

and

http://www.airpowersystems.com/350z/350z.htm


If you have the older APS TT system it should have the Garrett Turbos.

boostintt

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i have the hks twin turbo kit, which uses garrett gt2871r turbos. I made 395rwhp on a dynodynamics at 8psi on a built shortblock.

str8dum1

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you ever get those new actuators?

FineWine

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To be clear:

Both the tuner and the standard kit have the cheap turbos, as well as the extreme kit?

bah, why would they do that...

Zivman

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Lower price point, lower cost. Kind of to more directly compete with the greddy setup which also uses journal bearings... but has a ton more potential.

that is where they screwed it up. I think they thought that those buying the base kit were looking for a setup to use on a stock block. Meaning they want around 400 hp, which is about the most you can reliably (relatively speaking) run on a stock block. And those turbos will do that.

If one is looking to build, they offer the Extreme kit. The logic is flawed in the sense that most the are willing to boost their car, on a stock block, are most likely willing to build and will want/need the higher HP potential sometime down the road. I guess at that point, you swap out the turbos like you would on a JWT kit. I think the original base kit was a much better setup in the sense it was good for stock block and still had some headroom if one built. Now, the base kit is maxed out at maybe 450 on a build, and their other offering is big step towards Extreme power IMHO.

FineWine

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So what's the difference in the turbo's in the base kit, and the extreme kit? Just larger, but still journaling?


Is JWT my only option if I want BB in a NEW kit?

Zivman

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extreme is extreme... bigger turbos, bigger IC, big fuel system, big dumps, external wastegates (though I think the base tuner kit now runs them).

In any case the Extreme setup does use garret BB turbos. That said, I wouldn't recommend that setup for a stock block, or even a mild build. I haven't personally driven the car with the extreme setup, but have heard there is noticable lag with the larger turbos.

I wouldn't shy away from the APS kit because of the fact they use journal bearing turbos. Greddy uses them and have a lot of success with them. The reason to stay away from the kit is the limited potential of the turbos being used.

I am not a fan of the JWT setup. IMHO the base 530 turbos are too small to give you the future headroom you might want, and the 700's are too big for stock block needs. It's sad the APS kit was changed, IMHO it was really the ideal kit for stock block users and those looking for mild builds down the road. Some would argue the greddy kit fills that need. While true in terms of HP and potential, I don't think the overall quality, fit/finish of the greddy kit is up to par with what I see with orginal APS kit. The APS kit is a much more OEM feeling setup than the greddy.

GTM has twin setups available, along with Sound performance, and possibly AAM. I am not recommending any of those setups as I don't know anything about them.

Cass007

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To piggy back on what Ziv is saying, you can swap out the journal section of the tuner kit turbos with garrett BB sections and upgrade the trim and AR to get whatever type of power vs. lag setup suits your needs. The swap is appx $2400 which is still much less than the price jump between the tuner and extreme kits. Also, this would allow you to assemble/install components such as the fuel system or build the motor before making the jump up in power on the turbos.

+1 on the fit and finish on the APS products

boostintt

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not yet im saving up for that, maybe a plenum and fcon.. also have two wedding coming up in less than a month..