I'd be very interested, I prefer turbo over supercharger, but was discouraged because the only uspec turbo offered are twin turbos. I'd be very interested in seeing his end product and when I get the money I would most certainly buy as it is exactly what I'm looking for (single turbo with moderate boost and good numbers).

 

just speaking for myself....but if i am going to Turbo....its going to be quality....if its 8k or so...and the numbers/review are good...i'm buying it...plus its a single..whcih i like...less trouble

i'm down

 

Too expensive.....people need to realize the killing these companies are making...a one off kit is less than 8k, let alone one they are going to mass produce.

--wes

 

Forget this guy. Dont want to deal with sue happy people. Ugh.

X

 

Ok, lets get this straight. He is worried the Z may become a market like the Civic but he specializes in Turbos for Mazda.

Maybe I am missing something but when did a Mazda become so much higher class than a Nissan?

 

All I heard is bla bla bla bla bla Z bla bla bla bla bla civic bla bla bla great and he hasen't even look at the car I bet. As for greddy's kit, it is coming out. Companies like this make me sick He is just joining the band wagon of all the other companies after greddy top secret and pe did all the research. And please do not compare our car to a civic. As for the single turbo system top secret ended up dropping it. There turbo on there car is also a twin turbo. Way too many problems with there single kit. I just get upset when someone says there going to build a quality product do major R&D and bring the kit out in 2 months. WOW that some R&D. I think greddy's been working on there kit for a year now, through all the seasons....... If your going to build the kit biuld it and prove me wrong but for me i would rather go with a company like the three i listed. they will stand behind there product. been there done that CJ

 

Everyone must have a lot more money then me because there is no way in hell that I'm going to spend $8K on the motor. I trade cars to often and I know you'd lose your butt. $3-4K maybe but double that is stupid.

 

I would definatly be interested becasue i would rather go with a company who makes the turbo of the z for everyday drivers

 

i would be interested, but want MUCH more power than that.. so my question is .. what will it take to get 500+ horsepower out of his proposed single turbo setup?... i expect to be changing out the internals ..

 

I wouldn’t buy, HP specs are way too low per dollar.... 375, Give me a break... 400 to 425 should be the goal for 8000G's.

The whole Civic Statement was a little discouraging too. Bad move... even remotely connecting the too... Like Mazda RX7 and Lexus IS300 are better stock.... why would someone even go there... Its like saying, "I want to rape you first, now lets talk business" (sounds like he's only concerned with the almighty dollar, performance and customer appreciation are an after thought.)

Now after reading that blurb about what happened, I wouldn’t even consider shaking hands with PF. Had to use the other car’s core… BS… He did a full swap of an abused car, sounds like he canned one of his cronies, DUFF, who then dropped the bomb to his buddies how PF screwed them too…

This is why UR

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As far as a single turbo goes, it's just not realistic. You need to realize the design and size of the motor versus the power it can actually handle.

In order to use a single turbo, it would need to be a decently sized one in order to work effectively with the size of the 350Z motor. This being said, the turbo would probably need to be on the large side to be effective. Something definitely larger than the average T3/T04E turbo family. However, in order for this turbo to produce decent power, it should definitely be spec'd out to run in its efficiency range. Efficiency range for a larger turbo is definitely not going to be 6-8psi of boost pressure. More likely, 14-20psi. There's no way a stock motor will be able to handle that type of power. As well, it would be useless to run that size of a turbo at 6psi. It just makes more sense to run a twin turbo setup. Hope this has helped you guys out!

The upside would be if PF spec’d his kit to run higher from using a bigger turbo, or that rod replacement could mean 450+ hp if tuned correctly. Then I would consider.

 

I said this "The upside would be if PF spec’d his kit to run higher from using a bigger turbo, or that rod replacement could mean 450+ hp if tuned correctly. Then I would consider."

 

Admin. does not even know who peter farrell is? ouch.

 

 

Ricky, is he using your car?

He is 75% done?

 

I hear people say that As far as a single turbo goes, it's just not realistic. You need to realize the design and size of the motor versus the power it can actually handle.

Now that is a lot of bullsh!T.

OH yea no wonder someone told me top secret it GOD , now you guys make me want to start to belive that **** that they are.



haahaaa thats the must bull that I have hear in long time, why not just say its to much work or something but not it's just not realistic you guys are killing me

 

I think a V6 should have 2 turbos not 1. The single turbo would have to be big. Big turbo - big lag. 2 turbos is the way to go. Look at Greddy. The TD05H 18G is a great turbo. We built several of TD04s, TD05s and TD06s in 3KGts, 300zxs, MR-2 Turbos and the Eclipse GSX. Also I have a Greddy T78 in my RX-7 and it's sweet. Greddy is doing all right and I don't see a reason to look into an other kit. I'll track my car and I'm sure Greddy's kit will do well!

As for Peter Farrell - look into RX-7 forums.
I also heard that his IS300 kit isn't working at all. Don't know. Not my party.

 

Actually I disagree, while the TD05-18G is a nice turbo, it isn't optimum for our Z. Sure it has good max power, but it is not in it's efficiency range at the power they are producing 7-8psi. When the motor is built and you can take advantage of 18+ psi the TD-05 wil shine, until then it's a waste of turbo IMO.

PS- It's also causing the price of these kits to be entirely too high, if they had smaller turbos the kits would be much more affordable

--wes

 

But everone will boost higher anyways... After replacing week spots such as Rods...

Do want to pay 6000 instead of 7000 for the TD-05's, but when you want to upgrade to 18G's pay for labor and parts of an additional 3 to 4000...

 

Well, first of all, I don't understand how he can say the 350Z market can turn into a Civic market, wtf is the RX-7 market?? And that mini-Lexus?? Come on, that is hogwash, they are in very similar markets.

Also, I would be real interested to see a single turbo kit that works. If PF can get it done well, then more power to them. They have established a niche all to themselves, cause when problems arise, you would rather have one than two sources to check.

What kind of fuel management were you speaking of?? Has he worked out all of the plumbing, is that the 2/3s finished??

A single turbo kit that undercuts the twin turbos will sell, that is the truth. PF just has to do it, for around 6K.

 

Sure people will boost higher, but how many people will try to go higher than 14-15psi ? You could bolt on twin T25's and get 14psi out of them no problem. The 18g's aren't even in there efficiency range until 18psi +

The cost of a T25 or even TD-04's would be a fraction of a kit with 18G's.

--wes