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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Default Turbonetics ST and Greddy TT ?

After doing lots of research and doing many many searches through many threads, I am torn between the Turbonetics ST and the Greddy TT. Both are fairly cheap in price which is the main factor in my choice.

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1)Would the Turbonetics ST be significantly cheaper to get installed than the Greddy TT kit?
2)If I went with the Turbonetics ST kit would just using the ECU Reflash that comes with the kit be fine or would I have to get a tune? (Considering having an exhaust and plenum spacer)
3)If you could guestimate the price of the install and (if needed) the tune for the Turbonetics ST Kit.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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For TN kits done right plan to spend around the same as Greddy TT.

Ask around. That seems to be what I've seen on the different boards (driver, my350, chicagoz)

Do you plan to install it on your stock motor? Do you plan to install any other supporting mods?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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honestly, i would run both. the smaller turbos on the greddy would be great for torque down low but then the bigger single would take over at around 5,000rpm. as for the ecu, i would probably lean towards the SS box. its very easy to tune and people just about give those things away. stock exhaust with high flow cats would be ideal since it would give you good flow but just enough back pressure that you need for high end torque.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
honestly, i would run both. the smaller turbos on the greddy would be great for torque down low but then the bigger single would take over at around 5,000rpm. as for the ecu, i would probably lean towards the SS box. its very easy to tune and people just about give those things away. stock exhaust with high flow cats would be ideal since it would give you good flow but just enough back pressure that you need for high end torque.
+1 and if you actually did research you would know this mangggggg
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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lots of research? I doubt you even did 1/2 hours worth of research. So you really think both are in the same price category?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Let me clarify my post....cost of install and other required components obviously will drive the out the door quote higher depending on all the upgrades the O.P could intend to run.

He didn't specify if he's building his motor, or what his goals for his car are. Neither did he specify if he plans on adding any other upgrades nor what he's decided for engine management etc.

All of these things can drastically change the price. From that stand point, wouldn't the cost add up whether he chooses TN or Greddy?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
honestly, i would run both. the smaller turbos on the greddy would be great for torque down low but then the bigger single would take over at around 5,000rpm. as for the ecu, i would probably lean towards the SS box. its very easy to tune and people just about give those things away. stock exhaust with high flow cats would be ideal since it would give you good flow but just enough back pressure that you need for high end torque.
Compound turbo, Genius!

I do like the SAFC for tuning though
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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lots of research? I doubt you even did 1/2 hours worth of research. So you really think both are in the same price category?
I never said anything about them being in the same price category? I have no clue where you got that from. I clearly said that they were both "fairly cheap." Maybe you should read a little better before you post something?

I am just asking those 3 questions. For instance would the cost for getting the Turbonetics get installed be fairly cheaper than that of the install of the greddy kit.(Being that it should be a
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Double Post

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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1. TN will cheaper than Greddy TT.
2. Fine
3. Kit + labor cost = call shop

Advice: Search = save money
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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You didnt do much research cuz you woulda known, a greddy kit is not cheap. Also, you would have atleast known few of the downsides to the TN kit and this thread would have never been created. You just said you searched to prevent flamage but we can see right through you.

All jokes aside, get the TT.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:36 AM
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TT all the way.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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I have owned both, and pushed both hard. If you had 2 identical cars with the same drivers running the same whp, the Greddy car would win due to its better powerband. The TN has more TQ in the midrange, but the low and top end goes to the Greddy kit.

TN will be cheaper to have installed

If you run the flash you shouldnt run any other parts i.e. exhaust, spacers, anything.

Install and tune prolly $2000-2500 for a TN kit IF you provided a proper EMS.

The TN kit was fun but the Greddy is the hands down better kit.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:52 AM
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this is the second time recently someone has posted they did research and they are asking about TN Kit.. i'm wondering if the search engines on driver and my350z are mixed up or the search is taking them to some parallel universe
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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if you pay 2-2500 for a TN install/tune, they just bent you over without lube. 2k might be more average for a TT install which def is alot harder with the motor in the car.

The TN install is no harder or longer than a vortech which should be ~800$, add on $500 for a custom tune using a UTEC and there ya go.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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I charge 600 for TN install. I charge 1000 for TT install and i charge 8 for a big n tasty meal for that day.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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To answer your question about the cost of the two kits, there is a significant difference no matter what. When I was all said and done with my greddy (purchased used and installed myself) I was just a hair under double what the TN kit would cost used. If you decide to add any supporting mods then the price starts rising quickly. Now if your taking it to someone to get installed the price is going to be significantly more for a TT kit then a single, ex: 350rookie charges 33% more for a TT setup, of which is a killer price. I personally do not know of too many TT installs where the labor is that low, because like anything else, "more power more headaches" as others have mentioned.

+1 to what Alberto said about the power ranges too, the Greddy in the long run will be hands down a better kit, driven both and own a Greddy kit and I swear by it.

I would read through some more of the TN related threads, there's alot of problems involved with the TN kits, and if you plan on going that route, chances are you'll have a problem which will involve you having to replace things or rebuild the turbo (if you aren't doing the work yourself the labor starts to get pricey for taking things out and having them put back in plus cost of parts or rebuilds)

Just some thoughts to think about but I would opt for the Greddy if I were you, in the long run you will be much much happier.

Do you plan on building your block?
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I have owned both, and pushed both hard. If you had 2 identical cars with the same drivers running the same whp, the Greddy car would win due to its better powerband. The TN has more TQ in the midrange, but the low and top end goes to the Greddy kit.

TN will be cheaper to have installed

If you run the flash you shouldnt run any other parts i.e. exhaust, spacers, anything.

Install and tune prolly $2000-2500 for a TN kit IF you provided a proper EMS.

The TN kit was fun but the Greddy is the hands down better kit.
Thanks for a good answer. How much do you think the greddy kit install with a tune using utec would run me?

And what am I looking at for the downtime?

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I am currently running a TN kit. I am planning to to change over to TT. Just my two cents.
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Guess I am going with the Greddy Twins. I've always wanted twins!
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