First Z owner and FI car!!! w/ pics!!!
Okay listen you got ALOT of reading to do ALOT. Im not gonna sit here and say what everyone else has said. But if you dont listen you will spend alot of money fixing your problems for being hard-headed
What have I said that you think im being hard-headed. As soon as I get the money im going to get everything checked out and tuned at forged.
Hey nice Z man. I don't think its as big of a deal that SGP did the work. With any previously FI'd car it should be thoroughly checked out anyway. Just take it to one of the recommended shops and you'll be fine and enjoying your new toy. I'm with the others here on taking it to Shariff at Forged. I don't have personal experience with them but I haven't heard a bad thing about them.
First of all, congrats on the purchase and welcome to the community.
I hope the car is everything advertised and that you get many years of enjoyment with it.
To expand on what Mike (XKR) and others said about SGP... If the car was built by SGP during the earlier era when Kyle was there, you might be alright and everything might be legit. However, if the car was built by SGP within their last couple of years, chances are huge that the car isn't all it's advertised to be. I agree with Mike that you should not drive the car until the car has been thorougly inspected by Forged or another respected VQ specialty shop.
The dyno is already a cause of concern for me. I am surprised that you don't have a dyno with higher power numbers considering the combo of a fully built longblock, 20G turbos, FCon, and a supposedly fully built auto trans. I'm hoping this isn't the highest stated power or dyno for the car that you were provided. Cuz if so, the engine build and 20G turbos are way overkill for 530whp, even with an auto trans. That kind of power can be accomplished with a built short block, stock heads, cams, valve springs, and the standard 18G turbos.
If 530whp is the highest boost map/tune for this car, I wonder and become skeptical if the auto trans is really fully built and capable to max out the rest of the listed FI setup. Otherwise, it makes me question WTF the point was to put 20G turbos on an auto trans setup to only run 530whp. Why incur additional lag, if running a power level that is easily achievable with the smaller 18G?
I hope the car is everything advertised and that you get many years of enjoyment with it.To expand on what Mike (XKR) and others said about SGP... If the car was built by SGP during the earlier era when Kyle was there, you might be alright and everything might be legit. However, if the car was built by SGP within their last couple of years, chances are huge that the car isn't all it's advertised to be. I agree with Mike that you should not drive the car until the car has been thorougly inspected by Forged or another respected VQ specialty shop.
The dyno is already a cause of concern for me. I am surprised that you don't have a dyno with higher power numbers considering the combo of a fully built longblock, 20G turbos, FCon, and a supposedly fully built auto trans. I'm hoping this isn't the highest stated power or dyno for the car that you were provided. Cuz if so, the engine build and 20G turbos are way overkill for 530whp, even with an auto trans. That kind of power can be accomplished with a built short block, stock heads, cams, valve springs, and the standard 18G turbos.
If 530whp is the highest boost map/tune for this car, I wonder and become skeptical if the auto trans is really fully built and capable to max out the rest of the listed FI setup. Otherwise, it makes me question WTF the point was to put 20G turbos on an auto trans setup to only run 530whp. Why incur additional lag, if running a power level that is easily achievable with the smaller 18G?
Last edited by RudeG_v2.0; Aug 30, 2009 at 04:22 PM.
First of all, congrats on the purchase and welcome to the community.
I hope the car is everything advertised and that you get many years of enjoyment with it.
To expand on what Mike (XKR) and others said about SGP... If the car was built by SGP during the earlier era when Kyle was there, you might be alright and everything might be legit. However, if the car was built by SGP within their last couple of years, chances are huge that the car isn't all it's advertised to be. I agree with Mike that you should not drive the car until the car has been thorougly inspected by Forged or another respected VQ specialty shop.
The dyno is already a cause of concern for me. I am surprised that you don't have a dyno with higher power numbers considering the combo of a fully built longblock, 20G turbos, FCon, and a supposedly fully built auto trans. I'm hoping this isn't the highest stated power or dyno for the car that you were provided. Cuz if so, the engine build and 20G turbos are way overkill for 530whp, even with an auto trans. That kind of power can be accomplished with a built short block, stock heads, cams, valve springs, and the standard 18G turbos.
If 530whp is the highest boost map/tune for this car, I wonder and become skeptical if the auto trans is really fully built and capable to max out the rest of the listed FI setup. Otherwise, it makes me question WTF the point was to put 20G turbos on an auto trans setup to only run 530whp. Why incur additional lag, if running a power level that is easily achievable with the smaller 18G?

I hope the car is everything advertised and that you get many years of enjoyment with it.To expand on what Mike (XKR) and others said about SGP... If the car was built by SGP during the earlier era when Kyle was there, you might be alright and everything might be legit. However, if the car was built by SGP within their last couple of years, chances are huge that the car isn't all it's advertised to be. I agree with Mike that you should not drive the car until the car has been thorougly inspected by Forged or another respected VQ specialty shop.
The dyno is already a cause of concern for me. I am surprised that you don't have a dyno with higher power numbers considering the combo of a fully built longblock, 20G turbos, FCon, and a supposedly fully built auto trans. I'm hoping this isn't the highest stated power or dyno for the car that you were provided. Cuz if so, the engine build and 20G turbos are way overkill for 530whp, even with an auto trans. That kind of power can be accomplished with a built short block, stock heads, cams, valve springs, and the standard 18G turbos.
If 530whp is the highest boost map/tune for this car, I wonder and become skeptical if the auto trans is really fully built and capable to max out the rest of the listed FI setup. Otherwise, it makes me question WTF the point was to put 20G turbos on an auto trans setup to only run 530whp. Why incur additional lag, if running a power level that is easily achievable with the smaller 18G?

Yes this was the only graph I have of the car. I dont know when sgp had the car but im in the process of getting ahold of him. Im a noob but from what I have seen browsing around the forum is that sure you can make 530hp on a stock motor; but theres no telling how long it will last on the stock internals. Better safe then sorry. Anyway the trans shifts hella hard and the nismo diff is set at 80% lockup which sucks for driving around town in.
BTW... I didn't say or suggest a stock motor with stock internals. I said "built shortblock", which includes forged pistons and rods. What I'm saying is that all the headwork and the 20G turbos are unnecessary for 530whp. The standard 18G turbos have been shown to be capable of 700+whp.
With all the parts listed in the build, your car should be capable of much more power, especially with a water/meth or race gas tune. Which is why I'm wondering why/if 530whp is the highest this setup has been pushed. The big X-factor in all of this IMO is the supposedly fully built auto trans. I suspect the boost/power levels were kept conservative due to the trans.
I unfortunately learned the hard way that SGP's fully built auto trans is not all it's cracked up to be. I was one of the many who got scammed by SGP.
Last edited by RudeG_v2.0; Aug 30, 2009 at 05:25 PM.
Hmmmm...
BTW... I didn't say or suggest a stock motor with stock internals. I said "built shortblock", which includes forged pistons and rods. What I'm saying is that all the headwork and the 20G turbos are unnecessary for 530whp. The standard 18G turbos have been shown to be capable of 700+whp.
BTW... I didn't say or suggest a stock motor with stock internals. I said "built shortblock", which includes forged pistons and rods. What I'm saying is that all the headwork and the 20G turbos are unnecessary for 530whp. The standard 18G turbos have been shown to be capable of 700+whp.
as soon as you have the money .. to get it inspected and tuned? I don't mean to be rude, but I hope you have money in your savings to be driving a car like that. I also hope it isn't your daily driver :]
that being said, congrats on an awesome car, I bet it is loads of fun to drive. you probably saved a lot of money too - even though you won't mention what you paid.
that being said, congrats on an awesome car, I bet it is loads of fun to drive. you probably saved a lot of money too - even though you won't mention what you paid.

Even though the SGP fully built auto trans was advertised as being capable of holding 750whp, I have yet to see anyone in the Z/G community take one to anything close to that power level.
Chasing a # will only cause problems and send you down a black hole of neverending spending.... trust me. With 530whp on a DD the car will still be stupid fast and be able to crush 95% of the people you will run into, getting things looked over by a top shop will just make it safer
Sharif will send you out with a tune that will be safe for the car. Your setup SHOULD be capable of more HP ~600+whp on DD with meth. Your tune may actually be right for 91oct on a DD.
Chasing a # will only cause problems and send you down a black hole of neverending spending.... trust me. With 530whp on a DD the car will still be stupid fast and be able to crush 95% of the people you will run into, getting things looked over by a top shop will just make it safer
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Chasing a # will only cause problems and send you down a black hole of neverending spending.... trust me. With 530whp on a DD the car will still be stupid fast and be able to crush 95% of the people you will run into, getting things looked over by a top shop will just make it safer
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Juice+..... I am glad to see that you are willing to listen....RudeG and a few have history with SGP ...I did not want to throw his name out there.....but he posted...so now you know. He is correct..time frame means alot when this car was done at SGP. Kyle was the last straight up honest guy that ran SGP..Kyle is on here once in a while....I will PM him and see if he know your car.
If FP is where you plan on going ...you will be in safe hands....
Once again...Very nice car you have.
If FP is where you plan on going ...you will be in safe hands....
Once again...Very nice car you have.
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