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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Hey guys, I'm going to be running the APS TT kit. I have searched but cannot find valuable info regarding oil cooler fitment. I would be interested to know the: (1) brand and (2) size dimensions of engine oil coolers you guys are running with this kit. Would also like to know if anyone is running an ebay kit that worked efficiently.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Well my Greddy tuner kit goes in a couple weeks but I picked up a Stillen kit... It's about the size of a Honda Civic radiator lol. All kidding aside when I was looking for one the stillin was a solid kit for a reasonable price.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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Default stillen oil cooler kit

Mine just arrived Friday. In the process of making the car more track worthy.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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I bought one off of ebay. The core was about 10x10x3 and used -10 an fittings and line. Worked flawlessly. the only thing I had to do was order different -an fittings for the angle that I wanted. Lowered oil temps about 15-20 degrees. Pretty good imho. You will have to experiment with how much extra oil you'll need though depending on the length of the lines. My talon took about 1- 1.5 extra quarts.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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I forgot to add, I used the stock water cooled oil cooler as well. Since I didn't install a fan on my oil cooler, I figured the water cooled one would cool the oil while idleing/at a stop, and the air cooled one would be good for when the car was in motion.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ohwhatup
I forgot to add, I used the stock water cooled oil cooler as well. Since I didn't install a fan on my oil cooler, I figured the water cooled one would cool the oil while idleing/at a stop, and the air cooled one would be good for when the car was in motion.
That "oil cooler" is actually there to get the oil up to temp faster. Considering the size of that "cooler" and the fact that your coolant runs in the neighborhood of 190-210 degrees, there is very little, if any cooling, that "cooler" can do.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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^ what he said. the stock cooler is really a warmer.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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I got the GTM. I would ask for 90 degree AN fittings and one size larger AN fittings if they can. Otherwise, the kit is nice.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
That "oil cooler" is actually there to get the oil up to temp faster. Considering the size of that "cooler" and the fact that your coolant runs in the neighborhood of 190-210 degrees, there is very little, if any cooling, that "cooler" can do.
Maybe on the z, but not on a DSM. The oil cooler is fed from the water pipe, which exits the cool side of the radiator. I was adding input from my experience. It wasn't meant to be car specific. If it doesn't apply, then don't do it. There is no need to get an attitude.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ohwhatup
Maybe on the z, but not on a DSM. The oil cooler is fed from the water pipe, which exits the cool side of the radiator. I was adding input from my experience. It wasn't meant to be car specific. If it doesn't apply, then don't do it. There is no need to get an attitude.
sorry, it still doesn't apply whether it is on a DSM, Mazda, Chevy or whatever. Reread what I posted and please inform us how it does any cooling.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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You need to get off your high horse and calm down. I will break it down barney style for you. The oil leaving the engine is hotter than the coolant that is recirculated through the radiator. So, If you take hot oil from the engine, and cooler coolant from the radiator, the temperature gradient trys to reach equilibrium. This cools the oil and heats the coolant. Therefore, it is an oil cooler. So, cooler oil is dumped into the oil pan to later be recirculated through the engine. What about this is difficult to understand?
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ohwhatup
You need to get off your high horse and calm down. I will break it down barney style for you. The oil leaving the engine is hotter than the coolant that is recirculated through the radiator. So, If you take hot oil from the engine, and cooler coolant from the radiator, the temperature gradient trys to reach equilibrium. This cools the oil and heats the coolant. Therefore, it is an oil cooler. So, cooler oil is dumped into the oil pan to later be recirculated through the engine. What about this is difficult to understand?
way to "break it down barney style" for me..... still doesn't hold water. How is something the size of a small donut that is circulating 200 degree coolant going to cool 5+ quarts of oil? Trust me, whether it's on some DSM or a Z, it is used to bring the oil up to temp faster, not "cool" it down

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I didn't know that you have disproved the physics of thermodynamics.... Considering the oil cooler was only found on the turbo block, and the relatively higher temperatures produced within the block (even if coolant temp was around 200 degrees) it would still cool the oil. The net transfer of heat..... as already stated.... is from the oil to the coolant. So again, it cools the oil.
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either the gtm or stillen....u get what u pay for...i dont trust ebay crap...i has stillen and it works great
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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Alright, Its getting late.

OP- I apologize for Zivman and my behavior, and also for threadjacking.

Zivman- If you would like, we can continue the discussion through PM so we don't clog anymore posts.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ohwhatup
Alright, Its getting late.

OP- I apologize for Zivman and my behavior, and also for threadjacking.

Zivman- If you would like, we can continue the discussion through PM so we don't clog anymore posts.
Go ahead and believe what you will..... that said, don't apologize for me newb

Oh, and how about kinetix? They put out some great products, no

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Sweet ride bro.... can't wait to see how your see comes together

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
Go ahead and believe what you will
I'm sorry its physics. Law of thermodynamics, not Theory. Therefore its already been proven.

..... that said, don't apologize for me newb
I have to apologize for you. You're too pompous to do it for yourself

Oh, and how about kinetix? They put out some great products, no
It is very mature of you to look at my Sig for something else to attack because you argue physics


Sweet ride bro.... can't wait to see how your see comes together
Again, very mature. You trolled my other thread to find my eclipse. Why are you looking for something to fight about.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Ziv.
That's just mean... photoshopping a man's ride.

OP I used a stillen oil cooler with my APS kit
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
way to "break it down barney style" for me..... still doesn't hold water. How is something the size of a small donut that is circulating 200 degree coolant going to cool 5+ quarts of oil? Trust me, whether it's on some DSM or a Z, it is used to bring the oil up to temp faster, not "cool" it down
There are racing radiators with built in oil coolers. I'm not familiar with the thermal mechanics of it, but there's something to do with a cooling plate on the cool side of the radiator that's actually more efficient than an intercooler-like oil cooler.



@OP: Look in the DIY section, you can build your own for <$300.
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