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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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U asked for advice. Which u got from some of the most experienced on the board. Its obvious u won't listen so good luck.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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DarkSide ? what is Darkside ?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
dude its proven that the failing point on a stock DE block is around 420whp-450whp, and 400ft. lbs is all the torque u want on a stock block for sure...tell that to everyone running those numbers on stock block? what the hell is that supposed to mean...i am running those numbers on stock block, i would def. not go any higher thats just asking for trouble...and really u are waaaay to concerned with numbers...Its about driving a safe reliable car that performs well, who cares if u make 450whp and it lasts a month cause ill still be driving my 400whp car for years to come..get it safe, plus any shop u were to call would prolly laugh if i told them u wanted to do that..they prolly woudnt tune it for the liability to them when u pop it
Its ben posted they can run what im trying to do. Im not too big on numbers im more concerned wit reliability if its required. if u built ur short block and ur goal was less than 400hp/tq thas fine. Imo thas jus a waste of a shortblock and overkill. I have spoken wit tuners n noneof em have said what u thought they would. whatever this aint an argument thread jus lookin for risk/possibility of what im trying to do. keep it moving if u can't contribute to that.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Elperuano - Answer me this, have you ever been FI b4?... you can go ahead and ONLY upgrade your rods..its your money, but I give it 6 months and you will be bored of the power and want more, boost is crack.. and then your gonna say. **** I should of listened. Dont say that 400 is all I want.. because we all know thats not what your going to want.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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i say just go ahead put the TT kit on. If you've seen stock block cars running at 450wtrq, then obviously it can be done and there''s no reason for you not to do so either.

YOu dont pull the motor out just to replace the rods. its not a honda. its not cheap nor easy.

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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Vas_Z33
Elperuano - Answer me this, have you ever been FI b4?... you can go ahead and ONLY upgrade your rods..its your money, but I give it 6 months and you will be bored of the power and want more, boost is crack.. and then your gonna say. **** I should of listened. Dont say that 400 is all I want.. because we all know thats not what your going to want.
very true. u have a good point. thanks
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Elperuano
Its ben posted they can run what im trying to do. Im not too big on numbers im more concerned wit reliability if its required. if u built ur short block and ur goal was less than 400hp/tq thas fine. Imo thas jus a waste of a shortblock and overkill. I have spoken wit tuners n noneof em have said what u thought they would. whatever this aint an argument thread jus lookin for risk/possibility of what im trying to do. keep it moving if u can't contribute to that.
must be u cant read either as well as listen to people who have good advice for u...i am stock block

ur not gonna do very well on this forum when u dont listen to people especially when u are asking for advice...cant wait to see ur thread how u popped ur stock block cause u wouldnt listen
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
must be u cant read either as well as listen to people who have good advice for u...i am stock block

ur not gonna do very well on this forum when u dont listen to people especially when u are asking for advice...cant wait to see ur thread how u popped ur stock block cause u wouldnt listen
Gonna have to write it again for the people who don't know how to read, if u can't contribute sumthin KEEP IT MOVING! And just because someone givesme there advice doesn't mean im gonna run and do what they say. Ill give it thought. So yea, as I also stated this aint an argument thread. keep it movin brah
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Elperuano
Gonna have to write it again for the people who don't know how to read, if u can't contribute sumthin KEEP IT MOVING! And just because someone givesme there advice doesn't mean im gonna run and do what they say. Ill give it thought. So yea, as I also stated this aint an argument thread. keep it movin brah
ur very hard headed thats for sure and its gonna kick u in the ***...what else would u like to hear...everyone with experience in this here has told u facts and what u should and shouldnt do...why ask for advice if ur not gonna take it..
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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go throw some parts together and throw that tt kit on at about 15psi and send it to the moon already since u know what to do..im def. unsubscribing to this thread for the sake of losing brain cells reading ur comments but bet ur *** ill be in the next one with the results....if it ever happens..ur prolly just dreaming anyway and wasting peoples time who were trying to give u advice on a safe and reliable and fun stock block setup

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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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bout time
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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This doesn't really answer your question about connecting rods; and I don't know if you seen this thread before, but it's got some really good examples of what people are making on stock blocks.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...u-push-it.html
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by abarclay
This doesn't really answer your question about connecting rods; and I don't know if you seen this thread before, but it's got some really good examples of what people are making on stock blocks.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...u-push-it.html
yea I seen that. thas what I was goin by. people got good gains wit a good conservative tune.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Don't bother doing the rods only without also upgrading the pistons, headgasket, and main/head studs.

The best thing you can do to keep the stock block together is keep it at a moderate boost level (6-8psi), use the highest octane fuel you can get, and have it tuned properly on a dyno. Oh, and don't cut corners on the fuel system and engine management.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP
Don't bother doing the rods only without also upgrading the pistons, headgasket, and main/head studs.

The best thing you can do to keep the stock block together is keep it at a moderate boost level (6-8psi), use the highest octane fuel you can get, and have it tuned properly on a dyno. Oh, and don't cut corners on the fuel system and engine management.
ok cool. thanks man.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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forget the GTM TT kit.

Take your ticking time bomb to Relentless Autosports and Scott's Dad will slap on a JWT TT KIT with SS box and 440cc injectors. You will EASILY makes 450whp without a return fuel system.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dikspiel
forget the GTM TT kit.

Take your ticking time bomb to Relentless Autosports and Scott's Dad will slap on a JWT TT KIT with SS box and 440cc injectors. You will EASILY makes 450whp without a return fuel system.
thanks d!ck, you said it so it must be right.
lol no wonder its in ur name also, must run in the genes
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Well, looks like theres nothing to see here. I'll just move right along...
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dikspiel
forget the GTM TT kit.

Take your ticking time bomb to Relentless Autosports and Scott's Dad will slap on a JWT TT KIT with SS box and 440cc injectors. You will EASILY makes 450whp without a return fuel system.
Oh your one of those retards... OP Well I was having your same dilemma and ended up getting a Greddy Tuner. I was about do get it installed but really thought about it and did more research. Return type FS, built bottom end, quality comp and injectors for anything passed 400whp for a RELIABLE set up. I'm personally aiming for 650whp and looking for a whole cosworth bottom end. Granted it's pricey but seriously take these guys advice.. Minus dikspiel's retard take on that nonsense. What's cheap now will cost you more in the future. On last thing.. Be especially careful to whom you let wrench in yout car, there are full 80pg threads on particular shops.. Mmmhmmm mentioned by retard.
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