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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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hello everyone i am new to the forum and a buddy of mine who has a 350 told me about this place. So first off just want to say hello and thanks for having me. A little bit about me, I am in the US military and last year i purchased a 370z touring with the sports package manual trans, and with the navigation system. This car i must say is the best thing I have ever bought lol.

The area i need help in is I am really considering in buying a supercharger for my car but i am really not sure on who might be the best company to buy it from considering there are multiple making them now like stillin, gtm, and hks. I figure that alot of you guys have been around and have more knowledge then i will ever have in this area. As of right now I am leaning towards the stillin but if the other companys make a better product, such as being reliable and not dramaticaly reducing the life of my engine then in all rationality that is the one i want to go with. Well i want to say thanks for reading this and any advice will be greatly appreciated. Also I am sorry if this question was already asked but i wasnt able to find anything similar in the forums to what I am asking. Once again thanks alot for letting me be apart of this forum

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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Where you at in VA?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Welcome! Pics of your Z?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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i live in chesapeake but working at norfolk. Also I will get pics up tomorrow if the girl brings the camera home from work lol
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Old May 4, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Welcome! you might want to wait a few months until there's more feedback about SC's for the 370z.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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The kits for the 370 just hit the market a few months ago. Not really too horribly much known about them, although the people producing the kits are very reliable.

Honestly if it was just a choice of name with no $$$ involved I'd go GTM. But thats just my
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Old May 5, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Personally I'm waiting for the GTM kit but the best advice is waiting until we get a real world review from the brave S/C frontiersmen
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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Moving to Forced Induction.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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go turbo. more power, more effecient, and sounds nicer
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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go turbo. more power, more effecient, and sounds nicer
+10000
I almost went supercharger but didnt wanna limit myself later one when i KNOW i'll want more power.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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well thanks to all the replys it goes greatly appreciated. Well to add to some of the post regarding a turbo this was the first thing i actully considered. After doing some reading,it has persuaded my decision to stay away from the TT KITS. Reason being is that one i would like to pay my car off before i have to rebuild the motor. Also from doing some reading and asking around everyone recomends that i rebuild the lower end. Factor that in with the cost of the kit and we are talking about alot of money on a car that is a year old and I am still paying for. Now unless i have this wrong but it seems to me from the reading that a turbo reduces a decent amount of life on your engine. Also the kit is 7 grand as aposed to the 5 grand for the SC kit.

After reading about the supercharger, alot of places stated that driving the car normal will make the engne work as it is now(not sure if I am explaning that in the way i am meaning). In other words a turbo is always pumping boost as where the SC is only doing the work when you floor it or start racking up the rpms. Now this sounds like what I wanted, power on demand with out causing dramatic damage to my engine.

A little about me. I am not a die hard racer who is trying to go as fast as possible to the local store. I am more the type that every once in a while like to play around or maybe (haven't done this yet in the 370) visit the track and recieve a decent 1/4 time. Also just to add I baby the heck out of my car and the highest rpm it has seen was 4500 and that was only once. I would be more then happy with 475 hp and could not see my self wanting to honestly go higher then that. I think that is **** ton of power. I think this leans more towards just saying I have one and calling upon the power if i need it. Now I am not all knowing and mighty in this subject nor do i pretend to be, so if i have my facts wrong please correct me so I can learn and make the best decision for my needs/wants.
Once again thanks alot for all the help
Frank
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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by toner123
well thanks to all the replys it goes greatly appreciated. Well to add to some of the post regarding a turbo this was the first thing i actully considered. After doing some reading,it has persuaded my decision to stay away from the TT KITS. Reason being is that one i would like to pay my car off before i have to rebuild the motor. Also from doing some reading and asking around everyone recomends that i rebuild the lower end. Factor that in with the cost of the kit and we are talking about alot of money on a car that is a year old and I am still paying for. Now unless i have this wrong but it seems to me from the reading that a turbo reduces a decent amount of life on your engine. Also the kit is 7 grand as aposed to the 5 grand for the SC kit.

After reading about the supercharger, alot of places stated that driving the car normal will make the engne work as it is now(not sure if I am explaning that in the way i am meaning). In other words a turbo is always pumping boost as where the SC is only doing the work when you floor it or start racking up the rpms. Now this sounds like what I wanted, power on demand with out causing dramatic damage to my engine.

A little about me. I am not a die hard racer who is trying to go as fast as possible to the local store. I am more the type that every once in a while like to play around or maybe (haven't done this yet in the 370) visit the track and recieve a decent 1/4 time. Also just to add I baby the heck out of my car and the highest rpm it has seen was 4500 and that was only once. I would be more then happy with 475 hp and could not see my self wanting to honestly go higher then that. I think that is **** ton of power. I think this leans more towards just saying I have one and calling upon the power if i need it. Now I am not all knowing and mighty in this subject nor do i pretend to be, so if i have my facts wrong please correct me so I can learn and make the best decision for my needs/wants.
Once again thanks alot for all the help
Frank
If you baby the car, and don't get it above 4500 very often, i wouldn't touch it. no reason to. I really think a maxima would be more suitable for you, but hey if you like the z that's great. IMHO a sports car was meant to have the **** driven out of it.
"In other words a turbo is always pumping boost"- this is completely incorrect. On top of turbos being much more efficient, sounding better, and giving you room to grow,(simply put) the supercharger is always putting strain on your engine, while the turbo is basically not there until you get on the gas and spool it. a turbo is no worse for your engine than a s/c, difference is the turbo is capable of more power, and people love to keep turning the boost up "just a little bit". 400whp with a turbo isn't going to increase the changes of damage over 400whp with a s/c.
I hope this helped you understand. So, basically I say turbo or nothing, but before you touch the car i say go drive the hell out of it, take some triple digit corners, practice launching, and run it to the rev limiter a few times and maybe you'll have a reason for 475 whp
if you want to have a torquey car under 4500 rpm's, go buy a mustang and you'll be near tached out at 4500
hope this helped
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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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well thanks for the post, your help, and for your opinion. Now this is not the first sports car i have ever owned lol. I had plenty of others and i use to race sport bikes. I feel just because I am not beating the hell out of my car every where i go for no purpose at all doesn't mean that a car can't be modified for personel pleasure or as a hobby. Now as for the 4500 rpm, well never went higher because no need for it and i don't want a mustang or maxima. Like i said I am not going to beat the hell out of my car for no purpose, and possible speeding tickets. This is more of a hobby thing and nice to have the power if needed. This isn't to attack your opinion it's just trying to make you understand why i would like one. A saying that was always told to me applys to this, Diferent strokes for diferent folks.

Now that i understand that both have the same effect on a engines life. Is it required to rebuild the lower end if i do go with a TT kit, and how long will my engine last for aprox miles. Sorry for the contination of questions just trying to get a good feel of this before i start ordering things
Thanks again
Frank
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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by toner123
well thanks for the post, your help, and for your opinion. Now this is not the first sports car i have ever owned lol. I had plenty of others and i use to race sport bikes. I feel just because I am not beating the hell out of my car every where i go for no purpose at all doesn't mean that a car can't be modified for personel pleasure or as a hobby. Now as for the 4500 rpm, well never went higher because no need for it and i don't want a mustang or maxima. Like i said I am not going to beat the hell out of my car for no purpose, and possible speeding tickets. This is more of a hobby thing and nice to have the power if needed. This isn't to attack your opinion it's just trying to make you understand why i would like one. A saying that was always told to me applys to this, Diferent strokes for diferent folks.

Now that i understand that both have the same effect on a engines life. Is it required to rebuild the lower end if i do go with a TT kit, and how long will my engine last for aprox miles. Sorry for the contination of questions just trying to get a good feel of this before i start ordering things
Thanks again
Frank
Glad to help. I wasn't trying to be rude about your driving or anything, sorry if it came off that way. Do what you like man, thats what matters.
Anyway definitely go TT. We do not have much long term info for these engines yet, as they are relatively new, but with a good tune and conservative power goal (around 450whp i'd assume) an engine should last just as long as it would from the factory. Just do it right the first time.
Once your FI, you won't want to let out at 4500... you'll have just gotten full booooost by then lol. if you want a low rpm performer, turbos are pretty useless on this platform.
anyway, this is as far as i'm going, stay around and do a lot of reading both inside and outside of the forum. Good luck with the project and welcome to my350z.com

ross
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Alright cool thanks alot Ross i greatly appreciate the help. I am now leaning on gtm twin turbo kit. I am going to get the full kit that comes with the maping. I agree I am going to do a little more research, not sure if i am going to have to drill in to the oil pan or if there is something i am going to need that is not included in the kit. So with that said i think I am going to give gtm a call and ask some questions since i can't seem to find the instuction manual online to read that process. Also thanks to everyone for having me, I have had nothing but positive results here, everyone seems great, and looks like they are trying to get you the best bang for your buck and i greatly appreciate it.
Frank

PS you can bet when i go to the track that pin is going as close to the redline as possible lol
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