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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I've been getting a lot of calls, and e-mails about people wanting more HP, and doing it quick!!! And you guys see all these different kits coming out, claiming amazing results. Here's the Jist of it all.. Relax, have patience... All these guys having problems w/ the superchargers, and just wait till the turbo kits come out, and somebody goes over 5PSI, that'll be fun Superchargers have never worked Properly on a Nissan Car, I don't know why it's gonna start working now. Yes, i'm not a big fan of Superchargers, and never will (been there done that). You will never get anywhere near what a Turbo charger is capable of. The Turbo Kits that are coming out are cool, but.... Your compression is gonna be way to high to even get to FUN boost. Even with the NA 300Zs, there was a reason nobody had turbo kits for them, cause they needed a turbo engine to go w/ them, other wise BOOM!!!! I just don't want you guys blowing your engines, and wasting all this money. Have fun w/ the bolt up kits.. Intake, Exhaust, plenum, Ur pulley (best bang for the buck), etc.. Enjoy your day Guys!!

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Coz@CZP
Superchargers have never worked Properly on a Nissan Car, I don't know why it's gonna start working now.
LOL! No wonder there's so much misinformation on this board with supporting vendors posting things like this. Wow...care to back this up with any tech? What is it about Nissan manufactured cars that causes a supercharger to not work properly on them? Seriously, I'd like to hear this....
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Yeah Coz, that's pretty broad statement. How about some actual information to back your claims up.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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lol, ok.. show me a Nissan that is running w/ one, w/o any problems and better performance stats then a turbocharged vehicle.

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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We're not talking about TT versus SC, of course the TT is more efficient. We're talking about your claims that a Nissan engine somehow can't work properly with an SC and that the engine will blow if you go above 5 PSI.

It's a load of BS and because you're a vendor people will tend to believe it.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Coz@CZP
lol, ok.. show me a Nissan that is running w/ one, w/o any problems and better performance stats then a turbocharged vehicle.

Coz
It's not "better performance than a turbo," but there are millions of Xterras running around with blowers, and they work just fine.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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Maybe someone show warn the Xterra owners...
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Maybe someone show warn the Xterra owners...
Those are weak superchargers, and it's build w/ the engine, thus it's gonna work with the engines. If Nissan Builds a Supercharger for the 350Z, no doubt you guys won't have any problems. I"m just saying, don't jump on these kits until you've seen them work over a long period of time.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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I believe that it depends on the installer. Dr Bonz's Z seems to be running w/o any problems.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by jesseenglish
We're not talking about TT versus SC, of course the TT is more efficient. We're talking about your claims that a Nissan engine somehow can't work properly with an SC and that the engine will blow if you go above 5 PSI.

It's a load of BS and because you're a vendor people will tend to believe it.
I wouldn't go that far, i just don't understand why everyone is jumping on any new upgrade for these cars, why can't you just wait, and get some better results (long term)?
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by jesseenglish
It's a load of BS and because you're a vendor people will tend to believe it.
I guess we know what they are going to be selling and pushing huh
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Coz@CZP
I wouldn't go that far, i just don't understand why everyone is jumping on any new upgrade for these cars, why can't you just wait, and get some better results (long term)?
Someone has to jump on it before there are any long term results. SC long term testing can't happen without it.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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I have the performance I want on my car using a supercharger. And, my car isn't having any problems. Yeah, maybe I could have more power potential with a turbo setup. But I'm not even at the limit of the supercharger yet. So how do "better performance stats" even come into play here. Give me your best stats for a turbocharged vehicle, I can give you comparable or better on a supercharged vehicle. But we're not discussing the merits of turbocharging versus supercharging in this thread (thank God).

Focus: My supercharger, installed on a Nissan 350z, is working properly. More air molecules are fed into the intake than prior to the supercharger install. Along with this, more fuel is being supplied with the extra air in the combustion chambers thanks to the fmu and auxillary fuel pump. As a result, my car makes substantially more horsepower and torque than it did naturally aspirated. Seems to me that its working properly. And I love knowing exactly when the power is going to come on every single time I step on the go pedal!

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Coz@CZP
lol, ok.. show me a Nissan that is running w/ one, w/o any problems and better performance stats then a turbocharged vehicle.

Coz
This is an unfair statement to prove your biased opinion. To put it bluntly, there are currently only 2 SC kits installed on consumer cars at this point. 1. ATI, yes, some problems there with fuel management 2. Stillen, some initial pinging but IC install seems to have fixed that.

The bottom line is SC kits have only been out months thus no one can prove or disprove their reliability yet. Vortec and Dream Workes are coming out within 3 months. Vortech has been known in the past for being a highly reliable kit.

If you are going to post here, especially being a vendor, make more specific claims and back it up with data. We want data, facts, and not biased statements or generalized statements.

Jeff - zland

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
I believe that it depends on the installer. Dr Bonz's Z seems to be running w/o any problems.
Dr, Bonz had his installed at Altered Atmosphere and he has had no problems that I remember seeing posted. Topic II had his installed there as well if I remember correctly and his engine blew a while back... just making an observation....
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Coz@CZP
I"m just saying, don't jump on these kits until you've seen them work over a long period of time.
I with you on this one 110%. I am going to let everyone else work out the bugs, if there are any. I am waiting at least another year so that I can 1) wait for other options to come to market and 2) see what if any develops with existing hardware.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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Many of us are waiting to get our SC and we are on a learning curve + wait and see mode. All of that I have no arguement with the first post. However, the generalized statements without data, that is another issue.
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Should be interesting to see when we test the VORTECH,Stillen, and ATI. I don't think the Dreamworks will be out on time yah. Hopefully I can be there for the test day for Sport Z Magazine!!

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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To my knowledge, we dont have a Vortec car for the sportZ test yet. Anyone have one?
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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I want to thank all you bleeding edge, early adapters of the new FI options. Without your willingness to brave the new FI frontiers we more conservative Z enthusiats would not have your experiences(+ and -) to follow along behind with. And with these forums to instantaneously broadcast your experiences and discussion points we get to learn in real time. Keep up the great work and disregard the naysayers.
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