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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:23 PM
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The point is thar be has a tune that he calls "risky" but only for car he is already outnumbered by. Why risk the engine just for cars that are known to be faster? It's stupid. If ur gonna risk it then risk it all the time or none. Or u can just build a car that you don't have to.worry about switching tunes to.challenge a zo6.

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Shouldn't race if you can't win......wow I bet you guys have fun racing sunfires. I want to race cars that win or lose they gave me a good run. I guess maybe not everyone is that competitive though and get a rush from racing sure things.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:32 AM
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nice numbers but i got a good laugh out of the tune being reserved for c6 and built tt z's. z06 c6 puts out 515hp, you still wo'nt touch it along with a built TT z. They will be tuned for a lot higher than 476. No reason to blow your car up on a race you know youre already going to lose.
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The point is thar be has a tune that he calls "risky" but only for car he is already outnumbered by. Why risk the engine just for cars that are known to be faster? It's stupid. If ur gonna risk it then risk it all the time or none. Or u can just build a car that you don't have to.worry about switching tunes to.challenge a zo6.
well i have an update, this weekend i went back to check out the tune and ended up making 484rwhp and keep in mind that we are only running it to 6800rpm on the dyno where its still gaining power and on the street i shift at 7k. IATs are also going to be alot higher on the dyno than a roll race. For those saying a Z06 is ALOT lighter, my car is not as heavy as you would think, weighed twice at 3360lbs w/ 3/4tank

i feel like i would have a very good chance again a Z06, i pulled almost 3 against a C6 w/ K&N, longtubes, exhaust, and Tune. When i was making 437rwhp
and as far as Built Motor ZTT, i know the car its a hackjob on high boost he makes ~450rwhp and can't drive.

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
I edited it so I don't derail the thread, I kept the point the same though.

He never said he beats z06s just that he wants to race them, I can respect a guy that isn't afraid to try against the odds
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:53 AM
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Nice!^... you do have a very good chance against a Z06 actually.. It all depends if its a c5 or c6.. the c6s tend to be a bit faster but im sure you will give a run for its money for sure.. I ran 2 c5 z06s, camed, open exhaust, intake and tune ( the loudest thing ive ever heard, talk about thunder ) and I had em by a 1 1/2 cars and was still pulling very hard on him, it was only from 50-115ish.. on highway pulls I couldnt even hear the vettes exhaust .. cutout and open waste gate FTW!!

the only thing they have in advantage, is there gear ratios.. there 1st goes all the way to like 60 lol.. but as long as you shift right and wont drop out of boost while shifting.. you should have no problems

I ran em on the same setup I have now ( 11lbs)..his so called " instant V8 power " didnt even have me off the jump... as soon as my foot was down... power came up way harder than a V8 would (imo). I wasnt break boosting either. you just gotta be in the right powerband and know when it spools. ( in my case 3800rpm and pedal to the medal is instant power for me.)

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rh_334
True, thats more likely to cause detonation and BOOM, but lower gears when going through the peak TQ range is when it is most likely ill bend/break a rod, which is the weakest link of the stock block. But as conservative as the tune is im not as worried about detonation, on higher boost its running low 11AFRs and VERY conservative timing.
Just out of curiosity, what do you consider to be "VERY" conservative timing?
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what do you consider to be "VERY" conservative timing?
Tuner doesn't want me to say exactly but we could run 2-3* more if we wanted
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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nice numbers but you wont touch a C6 Z. They put down 450-460whp stock and the gearing on the car is awesome. You will shift twice before it shifts once on the way to 60, just to give you an idea on the gearing.

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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nice numbers but you wont touch a C6 Z. They put down 450-460whp stock and the gearing on the car is awesome. You will shift twice before it shifts once on the way to 60, just to give you an idea on the gearing.
ok you'll be the first to see the video when i do, i usually don't care win or lose but im tired or people saying it WONT happen, you know i do have a little thing that will up the boost
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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im on 10psi in a g coupe as well. The c6z06 trap 126 stock. the question is who gets the hit.


here is my power band i have much much less tq than you.


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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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the biggest problem i have is i spin all the way threw 3rd on a cold night, even a 60 roll spins hard.

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damn big pic, resize please
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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no idea how to do that

I did pull trains on a 2011 gt500 stock with the paper tags still on. i don't remeber what speed we started at but by 5th is was game over.

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rh_334
Tuner doesn't want me to say exactly but we could run 2-3* more if we wanted
Aww come on. Single digits?
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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if he can add 2-3* more timing it could be 14-15* total, which is pretty standard. Id say closer to 15*+ with that power/psi.

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
if he can add 2-3* more timing it could be 14-15* total, which is pretty standard. Id say closer to 15*+ with that power/psi.
At max power or max torque?
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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max power. max torq would be in the single digits most likely.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
max power. max torq would be in the single digits most likely.
Yeah that's about what I figured.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rh_334
ok you'll be the first to see the video when i do, i usually don't care win or lose but im tired or people saying it WONT happen, you know i do have a little thing that will up the boost
on a drag strip you better be one hell of a driver. on a roll you have no chance.

i actually drag race but doing rolls is no challenge and it's all the car. At a 30,40, and 60 roll my friends 09 z06 stock pulled on me with 507hp and drag radials. The torque causes him to get a huge jump and then from there it just pulls. Every shift he gained more ground on me because he's NA and i'm FI.

edit: If you beat him then big congrats to you.

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
He's making a ton less trq than a V8, unless hes brake boosting, it would be lights out.
Originally Posted by binder
finally someone that actually races cars chimes in also.

Duh people, the tq from the v8 and INSTANT power will make the vette win every time. Just go against an auto and all he has to do is push down teh pedal and walk away.
Instant Torque?
C6 Z06 stock vs Bolt ons


my graph (old)

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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yes 300 ft-lbs at 1200 rpms and 350ft-lbs at 2000 rpms stock, probably closer to 370 with the bolt on if you extrapolate the line.. Thats instant trq. Maybe you missed the rpm scale. it takes you 12-1300 rpms later to match that and continue to play catchup til 4000 rpms. like i said, unless you brake boost, the Z06 will jump head while you spool and stay ahead. Even if you nail it at 4000 rpms, you still have the second to spool and the Z06 will be ahead.

of course assuming decent drivers...

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