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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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only for the g sedan, the g coupe's ECU is already on the market.

The G sedan has a variable capacity muffler. Single inlet, dual outlet. The first outlet is always open, the second outlet is valved to open at approximately 3800 rpm. This produces max torque down low with freeer flowing for high hp up top.

They don't know what the final numbers will be. The automatic sedan saw >10 hp IIRC. However, it appears the 6mt sedan is tuned a little more aggressively and they lost power on the first try.

I don't know how it will affect performance, but those answers should be available within a week or so. I am not at the purchasing stage so I haven't got all the facts yet. Still researching my goals for the car.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:45 AM
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I replaced the center section of the exhaust (huge resonator/cat combo unit that weighed about 50-60 pounds) with the coupe center section ( about 15 pounds) and that made a huge difference in sound and power.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by zimbo
My Vortech install is complete. I'm really happy with the job the shop (cpracing.com) has done and the time they have put into tuning the car after the install. I'll post the Dyno sheet later, but here are the numbers:

N/A: 264 HP at Crank (217 rwhp)
w/Vortech: 400 HP at Crank (328 rwhp)

After installing the kit, the A/F ratio was too low (about 9.0), but one of the chips in the kit is apparently computer programmable, so the tuner was able to set the A/F ratio across the RPM range to the 11/12 range.

Since I live about 3 hours away from the installer, I decided to have them go ahead keep the car tomorrow and over the weekend to do some around town driving to make sure that everything is good and that the car is going to be reliable. So, it's going to be Tuesday before I can go get the car. I can't wait!!

BTW, from what they tell me, the car isn't overly loud at idle, but the BOV is pretty darn loud when shifting at high RPMs.

--Steve
What discs are they using in the fmu??? I am assuming they are 10:1 . I wonder if switching to 8:1 discs would solve the richness problem ......maybe a Vortech tech or vendor can answer this.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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I'll ask about the discs. Earlier I had posted that the shop had used a laptop to do tuning. Turns out they were tuning the piggyback ECU chip and not the FMU itself. But the bottom line is that fine-grained tuning is possible.

This morning I [finally!!] picked up the car and had the chance to drive it around. My first two reactions were: (1) it's not as loud as I thought it would be--it's audible but not obnoxious by any stretch of the imagination; (2) it is faster than I expected. Redline comes up shockingly fast in first gear. In fact, the first time I really gunned it I had bounced off of the rev limiter before I knew what happened. Gotta be careful

--Steve
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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How audible is the BOV in the cabin, I know it's purely subjective, but I'm curious.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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BOV is audible as a hiss--especially if you rev the car up and coast to slow down. If you are trying to drive "quietly" you can shift early and almost not hear the BOV at all.

If you're getting on the gas, you can hear the BOV--but who cares in those cases, really. The car doesn't seem any louder at WOT than it did with my Injen CAI, to be honest.

--Steve
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by zimbo
BOV is audible as a hiss--especially if you rev the car up and coast to slow down. If you are trying to drive "quietly" you can shift early and almost not hear the BOV at all.

If you're getting on the gas, you can hear the BOV--but who cares in those cases, really. The car doesn't seem any louder at WOT than it did with my Injen CAI, to be honest.

--Steve
so are you pleased with the results? After seeing/hearing your car it made me want one. The maxima might be getting retired sooner than expected.

Matt
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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any video clips soon...hehe =)
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by greddy4777
any video clips soon...hehe =)
In fact I think I might post one up tonight...that is if we-todd-did-racing site stays up.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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so are you pleased with the results?
OOOOOHHHH YEAAAAHHHH.

--Steve
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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OK I have a 1:30 clip of Steve's car but I can't get a host for it. When I captured it was 50megs. If someone will host it for me I would appreciate it.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Thanx sound like it is relatively stealthy at low throttle.
Just an FYI, I read on another forum that the SQ trim should not be cold started below 32F. Since the SQ gear tolerances are so tight lockup at a very cold start is possible. I don't know how 100% true this is, but there was a significant Vortech Forum thread on the subject via the Superchargers _online site. You may want them to clarify for you. It doesn't concern me in Nor Cal, but it could be a concern in NC.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by blubyu
OK I have a 1:30 clip of Steve's car but I can't get a host for it. When I captured it was 50megs. If someone will host it for me I would appreciate it.
I can host it. I sent you a PM with upload instructions--or you can call me at the number I provided.

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Just an FYI, I read on another forum that the SQ trim should not be cold started below 32F. It doesn't concern me in Nor Cal, but it could be a concern in NC.
I keep my car in the garage at all times so it's not below 32F very often if at all--but I'll investigate this. I would have thought that sharing the oil with the engine would make cold starts less of a problem than with the ATI unit, but I'm hopelessly uninformed when it comes to this sort of stuff.

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The supposed issue was just at cold start. once running, the oil would definately quickley warm the gear case. tHe thread was fro guy whos 4x4 (up north somewere) with and SQ trim locked up on him . Vortech replaced his unit free of charge, but warned that they would not replace it second time.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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old link , but this is were it came up...

http://www.superchargersonline.com/f...?TOPIC_ID=1389
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:15 AM
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Here's a short shot of video footage from outside the car. It sounds much louder outside the car than it does inside the car, so I'll need to take some more video footage to show that.

Windows Media Video -- approximately 4.2 Mb

--Steve
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It has an INTERESTING sound at idle.
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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You really have to hear it inside the car (or at least with the hood down). I'll take some more video footage.

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One thing that I wanted to mention was the car was somewhat cold so the idle was a little higher than normal warm idle speed. This thing sounds so sweet in person.
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