i recently purchase a brand new kit and apparently this one never came with an e-manage system not like the other greddy bolt on turbo kit. According to greddy, this kit is very customizable so it never came with one. I asked the installer locally and they said without it the car will run like crap and the idling will be unstable even after tuning it. So i'm asking for the people who have the same set up or had the experience of installing this specific kit, do i have to get an e-manage system or can i just piggy back my way around it?

thanks...
jeff

 

Just get Uprev, my car runs fine with it.

 

The e-manage is worthless, you are better off without it. If your shop doesn't understand that I would be really nervous.

Just get Osiris or a Haltech.

 

RUN!

 

so your shop is telling you that it will run like crap without it even with a tune.... find another shop man

 

thanks for all the response guys, very helpful. I would not be driving the car that hard, maybe just be playin around 7-10 psi (for now) would i still need engine management or its a MUST have? i had boosted car before and it ran fine with out an e-manage, and i know every cars and kits are different and i just wanna make sure it runs good.

 

You need an EMS. Otherwise how do you plan to compensate for the larger injectors?

You do know you need to purchase injectors with a tuner kit...right?

 

thanks for the concern with the shop lol... weird thing is they have 1 on display (haltech) for 2200 and its their last one... so hmmmmmm......

 

i have the injectors but is there anything else that i need to upgrade or get besides that i hear the oil lines from greddy's are crap as well..

 

For basic stuff you need the injectors, fuel pump, gauges, wideband, ems, bov / flange, and a fuel return. Some people will probably disagree with me on the fuel return as a basic, but I believe in them.

The stock Greddy lines do suck, Forged makes a nice replacement set for about $150.

 

EMS is an absolute must at the very minimum. If your going to be running on stock block, you can make good power between 5-8 psi of boost.

Uprev has proven itself to be a fantastic system time and time again. That is another very feasible option for you. Depending on your location, a haltec is a very easy to use ems especially if your support is limited.

Also I ran 2yrs on a greddy system on stock block with about 14k at 8psi@430whp, all I added was my fuel pump, injectors, gauges, and BOV.

Just my .02, but this gives you an idea that depending on your needs you don't have to go all out.

Good luck with the install OP!

 

Dont listen to these fools. The E-manage is the t!ts for tuning a VQ!

No need to even adjust timing just do A/F on the dyno and you will be good to go for many, MANY miles of boosted stock block power.

 

Just go with UpRev and call it good.

 

Lololol

 

Lol.......Emanage= BOOM!!!

 

I would agree, will make life simple for you in the long run, plus it's one less thing added in to the mix to go wrong.

 

good thing you mentioned about locations, i was advised that haltech is the only system that perfectly works up here (alberta, canada).. i would love to go for the less expensive route (uprev) but maybe with my location it won't work as well?

 

Correct OP, Haltec has alot of support with members here, and the software for the tuner and end user is the same. One of the big pro's to that interface for sure.

Uprev again is very strong, but your limited if you don't have an uprev dealer near you. I think a Haltec is the way to go for your situation IMHO.

 

Save the money, do the E-manage, just make sure to add NOS octane booster for the timing issue. No worries, cheap, fast and reliable

 

emanage ultimate is no different than a Utec and could control the greddy kit with no problems.

it was only the original emanage that came with the old 18g that couldnt control timing.