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Old 10-11-2011 | 12:11 PM
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Hello all Guru's,

I am trying to get my Z's HP up. I have an '06 moded with a stage 3 stillen sc and greddy evo 2 dual cats. I love how this setup sounds! However I wouldnt mind a bit more power. Now I know that 99% of you are going to want to say "Just buy a TT setup and be done". But that is not in the wallet at this point. So for what I CAN afford, I am looking at the following. What I am trying to do is get the most bang for my buck at the beginning and then add the others as i can afford to.

So what do you guys think would be the wisest decision cost wise to do...and in what order?

- Stage 4 Stillen kit - $1000
- Rebuild, Port and Polish my current SC with 15,000 miles on it - $225
- Add meth injection kit - $450

What do you think the HP gains out of these listed will yeild me?

Also, Is there any other suggestions i could do cost efficient to yeild more gains...like lightweight flywheel? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help guys!
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Old 10-11-2011 | 12:59 PM
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Don't forget the cost of the re-tune as well. Also, I think you are way low on the meth kit price, plus install on those isn't exactly easy. My Aquamist was tied into everything it seemed and required complete disassembly of the hatch area to remove it.
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You can add whatever you want to the kit, but the bottom line is that the M62 supercharger only displaces 1L of air/rev. This is not nearly enough for the VQ, and you will just blow more hot air.
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You can add whatever you want to the kit, but the bottom line is that the M62 supercharger only displaces 1L of air/rev. This is not nearly enough for the VQ, and you will just blow more hot air.
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You are best off selling that kit for whatever you can get and pick up something else. Anything else really will make more power.
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give it a 50 shot of nitrous
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I appreciate the input here. But again, I do NOT have the money to buy an entirely new kit. So i was asking if doing any of those things is worth it and if any what the best one would be.
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I appreciate the input here. But again, I do NOT have the money to buy an entirely new kit. So i was asking if doing any of those things is worth it and if any what the best one would be.
50 shot of nitrous would be the cheapest and best gain. if not the stage 4 kit, port and polish wont really make a huge difference. the lobes just cant move enough air
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Thanks Ace32. But I am very unfamiliar with Nitrous. How much would i expect to put into it? Im confused on the fact that i thought you have to turn it on when you want the power. I would be more into the power always being there vs. switched.
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Well, we aren't saying that just because we dislike the stillen kit, it's basic physics. That kit just can't flow much more air.

If you can't afford selling and using the money you would have used to upgrade to buy another kit, then nitrous would be your best bet. But i'd rather run a vortech than stillen+nitrous.
It'd be wise to save up and plan to sell that stillen kit imho.
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I understand that that stillen cant produce numbers others can. Just looking to sneak in a few extra HP with my current setup.

So you recommend a nitrous setup over a meth injection one?
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Also, if i did have enough money for a vortech, i would be weary of the sound they create. I have read numerous threads on the vortech having a horrible rattle sound. My stillen sounds amazing and at idle is silent. I dont want to gain HP if my car sounds like it is mechanically failing..especially since everyone else loves the way that car sounds the way it is also.
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Originally Posted by adittus
Thanks Ace32. But I am very unfamiliar with Nitrous. How much would i expect to put into it? Im confused on the fact that i thought you have to turn it on when you want the power. I would be more into the power always being there vs. switched.
you can tune it multiple ways, to spray at certain rpm's or on a switch. filling the bottle if it was set at certain rpm mark might be a pain if u get on it often though, but it would be your best bet for power. everything else at most might get you another 20 whp and thats being generous : /
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a lightweight flywheel will not yield any power

you also have to weight the cost of more power on a safe kit against what do you do if you have a major issue with the car that requires an engine teardown/rebuild? If I were you, I'd be putting money towards that and leaving your quest for power at bay for now

methanol or nitrous will both require retuning, and neither can be run all the time - what fun is that?
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
a lightweight flywheel will not yield any power

you also have to weight the cost of more power on a safe kit against what do you do if you have a major issue with the car that requires an engine teardown/rebuild? If I were you, I'd be putting money towards that and leaving your quest for power at bay for now

methanol or nitrous will both require retuning, and neither can be run all the time - what fun is that?
its fun in a bottle sir
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Stage 4 is the only thing that you mentioned that will yield more power all the time per your previous post. Port and polish won't really do much, and Meth Injection as Z1 said can't be run all the time, the same applies to Nitrous.

As Z1 mentioned though, what happens if your pushing the limits of the kits now on your car and something happens? If you can't afford other options, then just adding more and more to stock block may not be your best option either.

More power= Higher probability for problems.

The Stage 4 is the only option for more overall power all the time without switching power adder, but is the minute gain even worth it?
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Well...As stated a few times. I do not want to spend the money for a new setup. I have around $1000 to put into what i do have though. So i was thinking 6 new 600cc injectors, smaller pulley, larger fuel pump, and then a solid tune from a solid shop. Yes it may be a bit over the 1k mark but its that or nothing.

So...Is everyone saying to take my $1000 or so and invest in Google stock...Or upgrade where i can?
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Originally Posted by adittus
Well...As stated a few times. I do not want to spend the money for a new setup. I have around $1000 to put into what i do have though. So i was thinking 6 new 600cc injectors, smaller pulley, larger fuel pump, and then a solid tune from a solid shop. Yes it may be a bit over the 1k mark but its that or nothing.

So...Is everyone saying to take my $1000 or so and invest in Google stock...Or upgrade where i can?
Honestly man, I'd just keep the money and save for another route. The improvement won't really be worth the cost. Maybe if it was turbo, but not with this s/c kit. You'd basically be digging your-self deeper into the stillen hole.
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
Honestly man, I'd just keep the money and save for another route. The improvement won't really be worth the cost. Maybe if it was turbo, but not with this s/c kit. You'd basically be digging your-self deeper into the stillen hole.
+1 you are getting solid advice from members. If you are power hungry, ditch the SC and slap a snail on it. It will cost you more now, but less in the long run.
Old 10-19-2011 | 12:51 PM
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I just noticed, adittus you have another thread about pretty much the same thing.
"Is the Stage 4 Stillen upgrade worth it??"
They told you basically to gtfo.

I get that you don't know the answers to your questions and we have researched a lot more, but fack man. Do some work on your own, OR STFU and listen to what other people have told you. I hate spoon fed leg humpers.... SMH
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