844whp@26.5psi
10-20-2011 | 09:44 AM
#81
Just depends on what you are doing with the car. People like Fontana have to abide by Grand Am rules so they make power NA by revving higher. People drag racing on serious setups need the extra rev range to spool bigger turbos and hold gears longer, etc... Everyone does what they need to do to make power with what they are using the car for.
The find the one setup that works in a stock rev limit and makes the most power mentality cant really be applied to everyone.
The find the one setup that works in a stock rev limit and makes the most power mentality cant really be applied to everyone.
Last edited by ace32x; 10-20-2011 at 09:46 AM.
10-20-2011 | 10:26 AM
#82
^ for a street car i dont see a need to rev that high. for a huge power hunt and dyno queen sure why not but where the f@wk u gonna drive a car that makes 1k + whp up at say 5k rpm? thats not streetable at all lol will just burn the tires unless your running slicks or something lol. seems 800 whp is pretty achieveable with vqs, and looking at the HR and the VHR the heads flow pretty damn good from the factory and rev out to 8k with stock cams. 2 30 series turbo or say a 20g's + the newer vqs will get up into the 800+ area pretty easily it seems and the blocks seem to hold up a bit better aswell than the older DE's and rev up's. Seems to me once more shops get familiar with thr HR and VHR you will see alot bigger builds than on the DE and rev up
Hopefully this thread can get back on topic.
10-20-2011 | 01:04 PM
#84
Maybe im missing it, but the original argument was about the VQ35DE not being up to snuff for high rpm high power use which has been disproven not weather or not high power is useful for the street. Essentially look at any race team and youll see a high revving motor for whatever reason.
Hopefully this thread can get back on topic.
Hopefully this thread can get back on topic.
10-20-2011 | 03:55 PM
#85
you are thinking q16. oxygenated fuels are hard on seals and VP fuels c series is non-oxygenated. I've been running c16 in bikes since i was 10 years old and in 4 cylinder fuel injected race bikes for 10 years. Not once have I had nor have i heard of anyone having seal issues due to a non-oxygenated fuel.
10-20-2011 | 04:26 PM
#86
Maybe im missing it, but the original argument was about the VQ35DE not being up to snuff for high rpm high power use which has been disproven not weather or not high power is useful for the street. Essentially look at any race team and youll see a high revving motor for whatever reason.
Hopefully this thread can get back on topic.
Hopefully this thread can get back on topic.
The basic argument is that to make more power you need to push more air. To push more air you need bigger turbos which means either increasing displacement or increasing the rev limiter (pointless to make 1300hp for like 800rpm). The 3.5 liters is PLENTY, actually imo almost a perfect amount, but the motor just can't rev that high.
Would it be appropriate to open another thread and continue there?
10-20-2011 | 05:50 PM
#88
Yeah I feel bad about the thread jack, but these are pretty pertinent discussions that I think are in the back of all our minds, ya know?
The basic argument is that to make more power you need to push more air. To push more air you need bigger turbos which means either increasing displacement or increasing the rev limiter (pointless to make 1300hp for like 800rpm). The 3.5 liters is PLENTY, actually imo almost a perfect amount, but the motor just can't rev that high.
Would it be appropriate to open another thread and continue there?
The basic argument is that to make more power you need to push more air. To push more air you need bigger turbos which means either increasing displacement or increasing the rev limiter (pointless to make 1300hp for like 800rpm). The 3.5 liters is PLENTY, actually imo almost a perfect amount, but the motor just can't rev that high.
Would it be appropriate to open another thread and continue there?
I have a Nismo oil pump in my motor now and there is no difference between it and a revup oil pump that I can see.....except the inner gear on the pump. The edges are rounded around the flat planes that is uses to key itself to the crank. I will try to dig up the pictures I took. Every VQ oil pump that I have seen fail has done so at those corners so maybe this helps to keep the metal from tearing apart at that point which has the largest load on it.
Last edited by meatbag; 10-20-2011 at 05:53 PM.
10-20-2011 | 05:52 PM
#89
I dont mind discussion as it is a point I alluded too. I just didnt want it to get watered down with statements of what everyone needs to run and how hard or not hard my car is driven.
I have a Nismo oil pump in my motor now and there is no difference between it and a revup oil pump that I can see.....except the inner gear on the pump. The edges are rounded around the flat planes that is uses to key itself to the crank. I will try to dig up the pictures I took.
I have a Nismo oil pump in my motor now and there is no difference between it and a revup oil pump that I can see.....except the inner gear on the pump. The edges are rounded around the flat planes that is uses to key itself to the crank. I will try to dig up the pictures I took.
You wouldn't happen to have your rev up pump still? I think I want to get one... (should have bought it from blackbird when I had the chance smh).
10-21-2011 | 06:58 AM
#91
they are like 150$, i'd never buy a used pump
10-21-2011 | 07:44 AM
#92
10-21-2011 | 11:20 AM
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