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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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hey I can't see where ur from right now (on my cell) but based on the statement ghetto *** Newark, I'd say ur in NJ . If so the Gulf gas station at the airport has e 85 all day...
edit... I thought u were from Newark... My bad.. Thats one of the closest for me also.... I'm north of it
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dsm25psi
I used id2000 on my evo 8 with stock ecu and they worked great, had stock idle with them.
stock idle with stoich a/f (14.7)? When i went looking in the evo forums most were idling richer than stoich when using 2000's.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 350zion
edit... I thought u were from Newark... My bad.. Thats one of the closest for me also.... I'm north of it
staten island , and the closes stations are long island or east Orange/Newark area. I would love to run e85 in my new build but I'm not driving 25miles and paying $15 every time I need to fill up. Not switching maps eather.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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staten island , and the closes stations are long island or east Orange/Newark area. I would love to run e85 in my new build but I'm not driving 25miles and paying $15 every time I need to fill up. Not switching maps eather.
Yea man, I've decided on e 85 and yes I found all those stations u speak of... Sucks that there aren't many more stations around...

I don't daily the car much anymore so going out to Newark to fuel up won't be an issue...
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
stock idle with stoich a/f (14.7)? When i went looking in the evo forums most were idling richer than stoich when using 2000's.
Yea Jeff, I asked around n also remember some advertising that ID's were easy to get down to stoich or slightly richer wen running pump...

U kno despite all our discussions I'll probably still pick them up....

At this point thats all I'm missing to complete my parts list....
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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you cant compare tuning a dsm to a v6 VQ.

Like I said, if I spent alot more time, prolly coulda got them closer to stoich. I was at the very bottom of their IPW and still a 12.5:1. Would have to play with injector firing angle, ign timing, and inj flow rates to get anything better. I was only at 40psi fuel pressure as well, so I bet bumping the fuel pressure would also help the fuel atomize better as well.

I do have a stroker with big cams which also adds to the equation. But like I said, I dont have enough pump, so i'd rather have better driveability, than injector headroom
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Regarding the ID2000, no experience with E85 unfortunately, but I have a Skyline R32 with a 2JZ Swap, Hks 280 cams, GTX4202R, ID2000 with twin Bosch 044 Pumps, 43.5 psi fuel pressure on idle, utilizing an AEM series2
with damn 21x17 Map resolution, i can say if i want it to run stoich i can do it but the car want be happy with that much overlap, but it idles perfect at 13.5AFR +- .3 with out an idle control valve, gona install one soon... yeah the car produced 810WHP around 28psi and i was using 52% duty cycle, and the Injector dead time tables they provide are spec'd for various Static Pressures, and they are accurate, after running the numbers in the ECU closing or opening the power windows flickering with high beam the AFR stays nearly as it is +- .1 and then back to the initial target, loved the ID2000 a peace of mind to be honest. can't compare them to others the only injectors i ever used are either Hks or ID's and both are good.

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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zion
Yea man, I've decided on e 85 and yes I found all those stations u speak of... Sucks that there aren't many more stations around...

I don't daily the car much anymore so going out to Newark to fuel up won't be an issue...
I have a 14 gallon rolling fuel tank with a siphon pump in it. I fill it up and keep it in my garage and can fill my car up if i don't have a chance to get to the gas station. I got it from amazon for like 90$.

Originally Posted by str8dum1
you cant compare tuning a dsm to a v6 VQ.
no, but they are the same injectors we use so pulsewidth is pulsewidth. Based on the IPW they show in their logs and what my car uses at 1000cc now mine wouldn't idle at stoich. I would have to run 1/2 the IPW that i'm currently running since injector size is bigger. The id2000's minimum pulsewidth is well above what half of my IPW would be right now so no stoich and probably not even 13:1 even with e85.

but the main think is the cost for injectors i can't fully utilize
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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FWIW run the ID725's no issues and rock solid idle at 830rpm. Also recomended Tony's customer service from T1 Race Development.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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How would you compare the RC PL4 1000? To the ID1000? I know they are different injector type.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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you cant compare the two injectors to each other. body and design is different. one is also a low impedance compared to the id is a high impedance injector. we have ran the hks, dw, pe, id, 5-0 motor sports, rc's and the best injector we have used so far is the id's. had 3 sets of dw that ohmed out fine but turned out the injector was crapped out. had two sets of rc's start dumping fuel making the car sound like subaru. id ftw
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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I run ID1000's and they idle fine, easy to control the fueling at both low and high rpms... They atomize amongst the top of injectors comparable in price. Granted they come with pig tails, its only a 15-20 minute job to swap over. ID's seem extremely consistent between many forums as well. Stick with whats proven to be successful.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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^ They are available with an additional plug&play connector set. We stock them and sell a lot of those to people who want a simple install and don't want to hassle with cutting and crimping.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Thanks Hal...BTW, I went with the ID's for my application...I will also be trying out the new Walbro 400...Dynosty will be doing all the work on the pump to fit the 400...

My Aeromotive will be for sale soon! Less than 1000 miles...

Originally Posted by Hal@Dynosty
^ They are available with an additional plug&play connector set. We stock them and sell a lot of those to people who want a simple install and don't want to hassle with cutting and crimping.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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im runing the DW 1000 injectors in my setup.
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