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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by ravaz
swinke, your from greenville nc right? if your ever in raleigh let me know, i'd like to check out your logging or compare it to on my car, i'm not having the issues your having w/ the fuel.

-Bill
Sure, send a PM w/ your phone# so I can call when I am going to be in town.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by SKiDaZZLe
make sure there is no check valve in the aux pump you chose...

also, make sure the check valve in the fuel line "loop" around the aux pump is in the right direction.

you can see someone's mistake on this here: http://home.earthlink.net/~micfly/returnless1.htm

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ATI's pump and check valve come preassembled. It comes with the valve parallel with the aux pump. If the check valve was backwards he would've blown up his car the first time he tried to start it.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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swinke,

Yes Nissan did make some changes to the car . Doug from Crawford Z Car had to make two different STB's for under the hood. Those for dates pre 10-03 and those for post. My date is October so my engine bay STB uses bigger bolts. That to me is a major change. He had to send a new set of bolts!

I do not know if anything else changed but if it helps you I have 6 stock Nissan Injectors with about 2400 miles on them and a Nissan stock fuel pump with the same miles. Niether have ever saw boost.

You have to fall before you learn to fly and I fell, my engine blew, it went lean on the Dyno with the FMU. Did it have too? We may never know. I bought a brand new engine with new part number (2004 engine.)

Now, to resolve this I added larger injectors (from 280-290cc's depending on who benches them) to 380cc's and I upgraded my stock Nissan fuel pump that is a 210L to a SARD 280L, and I am not lean at all. I can be 11.5 at 6800 if I want!

Of course I'm sure you know that I had to have my ECU reflashed to control the larger injectors and change the timing. I started with the HO Kit as you call it and ended up with a tuner kit. Taking a major loss and then spending:

800 Injectors
290 Fuel Pump
600 Flash

Works like a charm I can do 9 pounds with these injectors and fuel pump. So if you need to do any testing stuff with 6 stock injectors or a stock fuel pump let me know and good luck.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by swinke
My fuel pressure tap is on the fuel rail! Its reading correct. Is it possible that Nissan used 2 different sizes of injectors on this car. Maybe they changed sizes during the first production run of the car. What is the production date of your? I will check mine and post later.
Check out this link..I think you may be right on the injector thing..there are 2 injectors listed in this parts section!! http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...03&catalogid=1
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by daking350
Check out this link..I think you may be right on the injector thing..there are 2 injectors listed in this parts section!! http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...03&catalogid=1
hmm.....that is interesting
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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One is Bosch, the other is made by Hitachi in Japan.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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But then, on the Hitachi website, it lists Bosch as one of their major customers.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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I should read what is says on my old ones. They are sitting in a box in the garage but it's 34 degrees out there and I just came in out of that crap. They came out of my new engine 2004

I was told the stockers had bench tested between 270-290's cc's and never new why the .20 discrepency. I still think pushing redline with stock injectors is risky with the stock fuel system but hey, that's just me.

I have always saw Bosche listed as a part number.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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Why dont yall just ditch the FMU and get bigger injectors and tunning?
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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bigger injectors may make the car run funny if not tuned properly..and are expensive..But it is most likely the route I am going too...
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by rammer80
Why dont yall just ditch the FMU and get bigger injectors and tunning?
Well, I am into this project for about $7500 at this point. Its Christmas. I have bills to pay. THATS WHY I HAVE NOT DONE THE INJECTORS! You got $1000 you want to donate to the SWINKE-Z Foundation? If I had unlimited resources I would have bought something other than a Z, and so would have you.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Not to **** anyone off but if I had bought an EVO for $30000 and put the $15000+ I have in my Z already...I would have a 10 sec car with no issues...
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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Yeah, but the car would still be ugly.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by jesseenglish
Yeah, but the car would still be ugly.
Ditto! You’d never get laid!
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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Sorry, correction and clarification.

The change date for the STB is Oct 2002, not 2003. I can't believe I have had this car over a year. Also the injectors and fuel pump are spoken for and I *did* ditch the Aeromotive FMU. Not sure if all is that is clear.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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So it sounds like, in order to make some power with the ATI kit and have good reliability, a person should just buy the tuner kit, some injectors, a fuel pump and get a TS flash? SOUNDS easy enough. Is it?
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Max: Stupid question. STB. Does that mean strut brace?

In any event, when Nissan changed whatever they changed in October 02, which car got the "better" (i.e. larger) injectors? The ones before 10/02 or after 10/02?
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Why is it that when a few folks get lucky with the correct combination of factory parts, the lucky production run of the car from the factory, and may even have a high altitude home for the car that requires less fuel for their engine to exist happily w/o detonation they are always very quick to point out how the conclusions the rest of us have come up with must be ludicrous and ill thought out?

Once again, I am not the only one with this problem.

God bless the rest of you who got lucky! I am glad this didn’t happen to everyone that bought the ATI SC kit.

Before you jump to conclusions and reply hastily to this post please exercise some foresight and intelligence and read this whole thread!
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Bonze yes the post date got the bigger and better and STB is the Front Strut Tower Brace.

Swinke, no luck involved with me, trust me, it was all money and research, lots of it
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by 12SecZ
Bonze yes the post date got the bigger and better and STB is the Front Strut Tower Brace.

Swinke, no luck involved with me, trust me, it was all money and research, lots of it
Brother, believe me when I type that I have followed your story from the beginning. Thanks to you and your post's I did not grenade my motor the first day after the Procharger install.
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