Tougelabs

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So I'm going to stay off the track this season "minus my 1125r track bike" and try to get some hill climbs in. I've spoken to a few people and they are telling me to stick with the NA Z instead of installing my v2 setup. My problem is that my other time attack car was producing 470 at the wheels with a 2.4 stroked SR. So I'm confuzzled here and figured I would use the internet machine for good instead of ****.

If I stay NA I will sell everything I have and have about 4.5k in the Z savings account :Yes, I have savings accounts for all of my toys haha: to throw some more parts at the Z like cams probably a halltech etc.

What do you guys think ?

2004Black350z

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Where the fck is **** you SOB?

Tougelabs

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What ?

Vivid Racing

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I know nothing about hill climbs, but I'd imagine you'd want some torque. Instant power would probably help.

Look into cams, headwork, an EMS, and ITBs. I've seen a few Zs make very good power with something along those lines.

MI 35th

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I have a couple of used Haltechs if you need one sitting down at Dynosty ready to ship out.

graffkid732

iTrader: (44)

Would a SC give you the torque you want to do this? For most part I imagine you are mid-high RPM, so why not a st / tt instead? Really won't lag too much and give you some more torque.

Resmarted

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Nope!

Turbos are the best for hills.
Think of it this way: by going uphill you increase the load on the engine. When you increase the load for the same speed, you flow more exhaust (relatively), and you spool sooner than on flat ground for the same rpm.

If it was downhill, the opposite would be true really. NA would be better.
I'd be willing to bet that's a good reason why pretty much all pike's peak cars have massive turbos.

str8dum1

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i'd imagine your want FI to counteract elevational losses. a good boost controller on a turbo can make the same boost regardless of elevation. a supercharger would just lose boost. NA would be terrible

Tougelabs

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Your 100% right, But what do you think about a de-stroked motor with 4.10 gears and a 928 blower ?


This is kinda a ******** thread since I am pretty much doing the SC setup just to learn more about them and have fun. I am in no way going to be competitive in this for my first few races. I'll be super excited to not wreck off a mountain.

jerryd87

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if anyone tells you to destroke your motor smack them, walk away, and dont let them touch your car. posted about this a few weeks ago but there is no reason too there is nothing that stops this engine rev to the moon. with high end rods you can rev it so high you will run out of cam and turbo before revs. the ONLY time you will ever find the limits of the best rods and have no choice but to destroke is if your running f1..............where the engine revs to 19k. also to destroke you will have to run a longer rod which changes the speeds of the piston at different portions of the stroke which ends up being better for na and worse for fi gimme a sec ill find the thread i posted in before.

jerryd87

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https://my350z.com/forum/na-builds/5...iscussion.html

read the very last post i made.

Tougelabs

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Still new to the VQ it worked wonders on my second SR build hence why I brought it up. In theory it would work but now that you point out all the faults your 100% right. Thanks man !

djamps

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Don't skip out on cooling mods.

ace32x

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this is the only way to go if u go na

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0WMeaZufo

350z-900whp

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go with power enterprise kit it will give you horse power you need plus its fastest spooling tt kit, you will hit full boost between 2500 to 2800 rpm

Resmarted

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I wouldn't go supercharger at all if I wanted to setup the car ideally. Gears wouldn't be a terrible idea, but I really don't have any experience with FD swaps. I would focus on midrange torque. I'd say maybe light cams, plenum/spacer and basically any tt kit out there. A rebuild isn't totally necessary, but it wouldn't be a bad idea so you could maximize the torque output.
If I could go for any tt kit, I'd pick up either a jwt 500 kit (get some cams and a plenum/spacer and max that out, tons of torque; from what I've read and the dyno plots this kit can put hp/torque out like a lightly modded Z06), or a greddy kit. Greddy kits make tons of midrange and torque. Either one will go well with a stock block (should you have a good tune/ems).
I wouldn't mess around with much else. Twins usually produce the best on/off boost response and mid range with the sacrifice of top end (compared to a similar overall size/power single turbo). That being said, there are more than a few single turbo kits out there that will more than work. Boosted Performance kit would be a great option too, especially considering the cost would roughly be what you'd get for your vortech.
I'd recommend talking to Sasha (boosted performance here on the forum) and taking a look at his threads to get a feel for his product.
I've communicated with him a little outside the forum, and he knows his sh*t. You can definitely trust his judgment.

f150intally

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voted FI just because of the uniqueness of this. You have to post VIDS.

350z-900whp

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You can see my dyno from my previous tt kit PE 500whp and 500+tq at 3000rpm With only pistons and rods no cams no head porting

https://my350z.com/forum/members/350...-503whp-17029/

Tougelabs

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The car is pretty well setup now with a 1.5 carbonetix and I'm planning on doing gears when I do my dif cooler.

Thanks for saying cooling upgrade that was the first thing I did on this car.

Unsure if I didn't mention this but I am staying away from turbo's all together. I have owned 40+ cars and all have been boosted minus my ls2 s14. Not looking to really "COMPETE" just really wanna have fun...

My next step on this build is a kirk cage if they call me back !

ace32x

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na it, some big c10 or bigger jwt cams some itbs and high comp pistons and some long tubes