MT single turbo build....
04-02-2012, 04:35 AM
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Make sure the APS kis is the external WG kit, otherwise you will get back pressure problems and won't make more than that momentum kit.
The only single turbo kit out there capable of making 700+ whp is the Boosted Performance kit
The only single turbo kit out there capable of making 700+ whp is the Boosted Performance kit
04-02-2012, 06:00 AM
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Don't mess with that veyron pump junk. Way too much money for something that doesn't perform as it claims. Someone posted the flow rates in another thread (i think it was resmarted) and as the pressure goes up (as it will with a boost referenced regulator) the veyron pump fell on it's face with flow rates. If you are going to go race gas you could probably get away with walbro 400. No way e85 will push a single pump to 800hp. Twin pump will be required then.
04-02-2012, 12:03 PM
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ok so welbro 400 it is... there is no way I will be tuned on e85 since its not
available anywhere near.... the kit already have a 3.5 downpipe with external WG,
and dump tubes...
the only thing I'm concerned about in my exhaust "I'm running AP single exit."
which means I would have to get a Y-pipe. would it be too much restriction???
available anywhere near.... the kit already have a 3.5 downpipe with external WG,
and dump tubes...
the only thing I'm concerned about in my exhaust "I'm running AP single exit."
which means I would have to get a Y-pipe. would it be too much restriction???
04-02-2012, 12:12 PM
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ok so welbro 400 it is... there is no way I will be tuned on e85 since its not
available anywhere near.... the kit already have a 3.5 downpipe with external WG,
and dump tubes...
the only thing I'm concerned about in my exhaust "I'm running AP single exit."
which means I would have to get a Y-pipe. would it be too much restriction???
available anywhere near.... the kit already have a 3.5 downpipe with external WG,
and dump tubes...
the only thing I'm concerned about in my exhaust "I'm running AP single exit."
which means I would have to get a Y-pipe. would it be too much restriction???
04-02-2012, 01:23 PM
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There is a chance it could be too restrictive. If it's a 3" straight through it might not be but who knows. I will be selling my 3" SP boost activated cutout soon. I have 2 actuators for it as well. 7psi and 11psi so choose when you want it to open. Gained me ~150hp over just my restrictive exhaust on it's own. Won't be as much gain with a freer flowing exhaust but it will still probably gain some good hp.
open dumps help with removing the volume of exhaust going through the system so less backpressure. I assume "dump tubes" meant open dumps.
open dumps help with removing the volume of exhaust going through the system so less backpressure. I assume "dump tubes" meant open dumps.
04-02-2012, 02:36 PM
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good stuff thanks for the input... yes it's an open dump pipe that's what I meant...
so for now I will be running a 3" y-pipe for with in the break-in period, then either
build a 3.5" turbo-back... or an actuated cut-out with the 3" Y-pipe.
will for this build I'm wishing " no expectation here since I have no idea where it will take me"
700whp is enough power "with less lag".
so it's only a matter of waiting for the kit to show up and the few missing parts such as
the pump/Ypipe/etc...
lets see where this build goes...
so for now I will be running a 3" y-pipe for with in the break-in period, then either
build a 3.5" turbo-back... or an actuated cut-out with the 3" Y-pipe.
will for this build I'm wishing " no expectation here since I have no idea where it will take me"
700whp is enough power "with less lag".
so it's only a matter of waiting for the kit to show up and the few missing parts such as
the pump/Ypipe/etc...
lets see where this build goes...
04-14-2012, 01:17 PM
#49
So, here we go.... engine is out of the car and just transferring all the harness, sensors, accs. too....
got couple of questions....
1. which break-in oil should I use... I read a lot about it on the forum and it never been a single straight out answer... I did speak with the tuner and he told me we are doing a 30mins. idle"break-in tune"/oil change 500mile/oil change 1000mile and then retune
but my question is which oil should I be using "I know I have to rune non-synthetic but which type???"
2.Is it possible to fit gt30r's using the APS extreme manifolds??
if it is..... which A/R,housing size show I run???
Note: I did change the type of injectors to ID1000cc since I have heard a lot of good stuff about them....
got couple of questions....
1. which break-in oil should I use... I read a lot about it on the forum and it never been a single straight out answer... I did speak with the tuner and he told me we are doing a 30mins. idle"break-in tune"/oil change 500mile/oil change 1000mile and then retune
but my question is which oil should I be using "I know I have to rune non-synthetic but which type???"
2.Is it possible to fit gt30r's using the APS extreme manifolds??
if it is..... which A/R,housing size show I run???
Note: I did change the type of injectors to ID1000cc since I have heard a lot of good stuff about them....
04-17-2012, 06:45 AM
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as for break in oil. Any quality 10-30 or straight 30w oil should work. Mine has varied over the years but the last 2 engines I used mobil 1 10w30 for my break in and I added redline sythetic break in additives (zinc and phosphorus additives).
I, too, do the first oil and get it out fast, then do another one around 500 then at the 1000 mark I switch to my sythetic.
I, too, do the first oil and get it out fast, then do another one around 500 then at the 1000 mark I switch to my sythetic.
04-17-2012, 07:04 AM
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good good great.... one point knocked out... now the gt3071r twins is it possible or not I'm just cruise to know if it fits or not ??? I know GTM manifolds are longer and the turbos located further back..... now is there a turbo housing small enough to fit??? I know I read somewhere that one of the gt28 housing is interchangeable with the gt30???? I don't know if it's 100% true....
04-17-2012, 09:29 AM
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you will not fit true 3071s. lots of places can machine the housings to fit the bigger wheels. Cass had that done. you will not fit a real 3071 in there though
Have you already bought the APS extreme? If you are wantin to change out the turbos already,I wouldnt buy that kit. rpelacement parts are next to impossible to get.
If I was doing it again, it would be a BP kit with a 7175 with a big AR (ha just kidding, more like a 8288 with a QSV
)
Have you already bought the APS extreme? If you are wantin to change out the turbos already,I wouldnt buy that kit. rpelacement parts are next to impossible to get.
If I was doing it again, it would be a BP kit with a 7175 with a big AR (ha just kidding, more like a 8288 with a QSV
)
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04-17-2012, 10:34 AM
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I have already bought the kit.. I'm stuck with what ever I have... I'm not the luckiest man on earth as you see lol... first started working with functioned:tuned "out of business", then Momentum kit "out of business", and finally APS hahahaha how funny... will will machining the housing and fitting a bigger wheels gives in HP gains if not then why doing that..
04-17-2012, 10:53 AM
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ahh just seemed like a super short time period between when you were looking at a momemtum kit and now.
did you buy it new or used? If used, you probably want to send the turbos off to get inspected. Its not easy having to pull them once installed if they are bad.
Post 40 already says they are gt30 turbos. There's nothing more you can do.
did you buy it new or used? If used, you probably want to send the turbos off to get inspected. Its not easy having to pull them once installed if they are bad.
Post 40 already says they are gt30 turbos. There's nothing more you can do.
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04-17-2012, 11:37 AM
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you will not fit true 3071s. lots of places can machine the housings to fit the bigger wheels. Cass had that done. you will not fit a real 3071 in there though
Have you already bought the APS extreme? If you are wantin to change out the turbos already,I wouldnt buy that kit. rpelacement parts are next to impossible to get.
If I was doing it again, it would be a BP kit with a 7175 with a big AR (ha just kidding, more like a 8288 with a QSV)
Have you already bought the APS extreme? If you are wantin to change out the turbos already,I wouldnt buy that kit. rpelacement parts are next to impossible to get.
If I was doing it again, it would be a BP kit with a 7175 with a big AR (ha just kidding, more like a 8288 with a QSV
)@Binder I just was agreeing/backing up what you said.
07-29-2012, 04:11 AM
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Bringing this thread back from the dead with the dyno results...
So after going throw the B.S. with APS tt, I ditched it and went back to the momentum kit.
I did rotate the down pipe and converted the waste-gate to open dump... since it didn't
lineup at first...
Anyway here is the build list I ended up with:
Momentum kit GT3582R with the headers.
ID 1000cc injectors.
Built engine "info in page#1"
AAM stage 2 return fuel system with rails "the custom one I had leaked from every where"
welbro 255lb
it made 517.8/462.8 15psi on DD 93F was the temp.
here is the vid
So after going throw the B.S. with APS tt, I ditched it and went back to the momentum kit.
I did rotate the down pipe and converted the waste-gate to open dump... since it didn't
lineup at first...
Anyway here is the build list I ended up with:
Momentum kit GT3582R with the headers.
ID 1000cc injectors.
Built engine "info in page#1"
AAM stage 2 return fuel system with rails "the custom one I had leaked from every where"
welbro 255lb
it made 517.8/462.8 15psi on DD 93F was the temp.
here is the vid
