want a single turbo. help?!
NO problem..
as for the rest of this.. its Monday and this is my opportunity to rant haphazardly.. you let me be!
haha. i keed.
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wow, i think im better off trying to get a new car lol , im not gonna spend 20k only to get 500whp, thats pointless , plus the 15k i spent for the car already, id rather get an older s14 or something
That's why you buy an already done car.
There is no cheap way to do FI unless you find a used kit for cheap and install it yourself and never plan on tuning up the boost.
Even than, its still a matter of luck getting a cheap kit that doesnt need money put into it. And to make things work well you'll want a nice ECU upgrade like Uprev, as with a fuel return system....
chit adds up fast.
I don't even want to know what I have in my car total, Guessing 40-45K total, (with car, paid 25K for car)
There is no cheap way to do FI unless you find a used kit for cheap and install it yourself and never plan on tuning up the boost.
Even than, its still a matter of luck getting a cheap kit that doesnt need money put into it. And to make things work well you'll want a nice ECU upgrade like Uprev, as with a fuel return system....
chit adds up fast.
I don't even want to know what I have in my car total, Guessing 40-45K total, (with car, paid 25K for car)
OP, have you ever had a car with more than 250 whp? Are you even ready for a car that actually has power. Chances are you'll wrap it around a light post or phone pole.
Most 300K super cars don't make that much whp, let alone this Z which is a great handling car to begin with. I think you are better off selling the car too and go on pretending its fast.
Most 300K super cars don't make that much whp, let alone this Z which is a great handling car to begin with. I think you are better off selling the car too and go on pretending its fast.
It's unfair I cant make fun of these jerk off's without getting banned, but they can ignore the stickies and clutter up the forums with this dreamer thread, stupid Q BS.
Can I get a pass in the FI forums to "speak freely?" LOL
Can I get a pass in the FI forums to "speak freely?" LOL
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My **** is I would say as reliable or more so than any TT kit, I have less moving parts and one less turbo that could possibly fail. .... thats a safe 450
The VQ35 is not built for the stresses of that kind of power. Each part is rated for a certain tolerance. Reliability is not measured by whether your setup as yet failed. It is measured as the average over all users. You can't say your setup is reliable - other than in the local sense that you haven't had issues yet.
If you want statistically reliable builds for a VQ, you must use a built version of the engine. The VG30DETT was tough as nails because it was overbuilt from the factory. The VQ35 is not very overbuilt from the factory (nor is the transmission). You may be able to squeeze 400 hp for a period of time, but eventually you will start losing compression, throw a rod, or experience other stress-related problems.
There is no cheap option to doing these kind of upgrades properly. You can slap a blower on the engine and get a cheap thrill for 30K miles, but eventually you will have trouble.
Nissan learned this when they did the R38 and GTR versions of the engine. They didn't just boost it up, they made serious changes to hold the power.
What makes you think you can get GTR levels of power off of a stock VQ35 reliably, when Nissan can't?
The TT kits aren't reliable either.
The VQ35 is not built for the stresses of that kind of power. Each part is rated for a certain tolerance. Reliability is not measured by whether your setup as yet failed. It is measured as the average over all users. You can't say your setup is reliable - other than in the local sense that you haven't had issues yet.
If you want statistically reliable builds for a VQ, you must use a built version of the engine. The VG30DETT was tough as nails because it was overbuilt from the factory. The VQ35 is not very overbuilt from the factory (nor is the transmission). You may be able to squeeze 400 hp for a period of time, but eventually you will start losing compression, throw a rod, or experience other stress-related problems.
There is no cheap option to doing these kind of upgrades properly. You can slap a blower on the engine and get a cheap thrill for 30K miles, but eventually you will have trouble.
Nissan learned this when they did the R38 and GTR versions of the engine. They didn't just boost it up, they made serious changes to hold the power.
What makes you think you can get GTR levels of power off of a stock VQ35 reliably, when Nissan can't?
The VQ35 is not built for the stresses of that kind of power. Each part is rated for a certain tolerance. Reliability is not measured by whether your setup as yet failed. It is measured as the average over all users. You can't say your setup is reliable - other than in the local sense that you haven't had issues yet.
If you want statistically reliable builds for a VQ, you must use a built version of the engine. The VG30DETT was tough as nails because it was overbuilt from the factory. The VQ35 is not very overbuilt from the factory (nor is the transmission). You may be able to squeeze 400 hp for a period of time, but eventually you will start losing compression, throw a rod, or experience other stress-related problems.
There is no cheap option to doing these kind of upgrades properly. You can slap a blower on the engine and get a cheap thrill for 30K miles, but eventually you will have trouble.
Nissan learned this when they did the R38 and GTR versions of the engine. They didn't just boost it up, they made serious changes to hold the power.
What makes you think you can get GTR levels of power off of a stock VQ35 reliably, when Nissan can't?
You have valid points from an engineering perspective. Not everyone will think that way though. I was thinking since Z Fever figured out how to swap an HR motor into an 04 G35 that they will be able to figure out how to swap a VR38DETT motor into a Z. Check this link out. It's Greddy's engine program. I know the thread is old, but they are selling reconditioned GT-R motor longblocks INCLUDING turbos for 11k. This would be a steal of a deal if Z Fever could figure out how to swap the motor.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....ngine-program/
You have valid points from an engineering perspective. Not everyone will think that way though. I was thinking since Z Fever figured out how to swap an HR motor into an 04 G35 that they will be able to figure out how to swap a VR38DETT motor into a Z. Check this link out. It's Greddy's engine program. I know the thread is old, but they are selling reconditioned GT-R motor longblocks INCLUDING turbos for 11k. This would be a steal of a deal if Z Fever could figure out how to swap the motor.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....ngine-program/
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....ngine-program/
No point in even posting our real opinions anymore. I'll probably get banned again if I say anything impolite.
So bless your heart OP, I wish you the best of luck with your build.
The TT kits aren't reliable either.
The VQ35 is not built for the stresses of that kind of power. Each part is rated for a certain tolerance. Reliability is not measured by whether your setup as yet failed. It is measured as the average over all users. You can't say your setup is reliable - other than in the local sense that you haven't had issues yet.
If you want statistically reliable builds for a VQ, you must use a built version of the engine. The VG30DETT was tough as nails because it was overbuilt from the factory. The VQ35 is not very overbuilt from the factory (nor is the transmission). You may be able to squeeze 400 hp for a period of time, but eventually you will start losing compression, throw a rod, or experience other stress-related problems.
There is no cheap option to doing these kind of upgrades properly. You can slap a blower on the engine and get a cheap thrill for 30K miles, but eventually you will have trouble.
Nissan learned this when they did the R38 and GTR versions of the engine. They didn't just boost it up, they made serious changes to hold the power.
What makes you think you can get GTR levels of power off of a stock VQ35 reliably, when Nissan can't?
The VQ35 is not built for the stresses of that kind of power. Each part is rated for a certain tolerance. Reliability is not measured by whether your setup as yet failed. It is measured as the average over all users. You can't say your setup is reliable - other than in the local sense that you haven't had issues yet.
If you want statistically reliable builds for a VQ, you must use a built version of the engine. The VG30DETT was tough as nails because it was overbuilt from the factory. The VQ35 is not very overbuilt from the factory (nor is the transmission). You may be able to squeeze 400 hp for a period of time, but eventually you will start losing compression, throw a rod, or experience other stress-related problems.
There is no cheap option to doing these kind of upgrades properly. You can slap a blower on the engine and get a cheap thrill for 30K miles, but eventually you will have trouble.
Nissan learned this when they did the R38 and GTR versions of the engine. They didn't just boost it up, they made serious changes to hold the power.
What makes you think you can get GTR levels of power off of a stock VQ35 reliably, when Nissan can't?
Why should aftermarket engineers receive any less credit than Nissan. Not to mention I know from experience, my stock motor blew at 420 whp and not due to stress, it was from a shorted out injector driver. I needed a new OEM harness, new haltech, and new motor. After thousands in mistakes I started to take notice learn from other peoples mistakes.
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I don't think you can. I have a built motor, billet girdle, forged pistons and rods, hand built with every component upgraded possible. I have thousands of dollars in my motor as many of us do not to mention the EMS, tuning, fuel, etc etc and I am still running a conservative number and not pushing the limits of my setup.
Why should aftermarket engineers receive any less credit than Nissan. Not to mention I know from experience, my stock motor blew at 420 whp and not due to stress, it was from a shorted out injector driver. I needed a new OEM harness, new haltech, and new motor. After thousands in mistakes I started to take notice learn from other peoples mistakes.
Why should aftermarket engineers receive any less credit than Nissan. Not to mention I know from experience, my stock motor blew at 420 whp and not due to stress, it was from a shorted out injector driver. I needed a new OEM harness, new haltech, and new motor. After thousands in mistakes I started to take notice learn from other peoples mistakes.
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okay DYNOSTY person, you dont know me at all so stop thinking i havent drove a "fast car" , because your wrong and yes i am a teenager and am do have a sort of budget so just stop being a dick and help out a little. and im sure my z is nicer than yours anyways. just not faster because your probably 40 and have a twin turboed z with big hp numbers, congrats broo... JS
okay DYNOSTY person, you dont know me at all so stop thinking i havent drove a "fast car" , because your wrong and yes i am a teenager and am do have a sort of budget so just stop being a dick and help out a little. and im sure my z is nicer than yours anyways. just not faster because your probably 40 and have a twin turboed z with big hp numbers, congrats broo... JS
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okay DYNOSTY person, you dont know me at all so stop thinking i havent drove a "fast car" , because your wrong and yes i am a teenager and am do have a sort of budget so just stop being a dick and help out a little. and im sure my z is nicer than yours anyways. just not faster because your probably 40 and have a twin turboed z with big hp numbers, congrats broo... JS
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LULZ 
okay DYNOSTY person, you dont know me at all so stop thinking i havent drove a "fast car" , because your wrong and yes i am a teenager and am do have a sort of budget so just stop being a dick and help out a little. and im sure my z is nicer than yours anyways. just not faster because your probably 40 and have a twin turboed z with big hp numbers, congrats broo... JS