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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by xslangx
What exactly am i "Cheaping out on?"

A gt35 knock off turbo that worst case scenario will go bad in 5000 miles? Oh boy, engine damage imminent. No wonder you guys get charged 8000$ for a turbo kit hahaha

The only thing low quality in this kit is the turbo, which will be rebuilt with garret internals anyways as I always do with my china turbos.

Ive ran them for over 60k miles on a garret rebuild on my 57 and 50 trim with no issues.

Dont be ignorant, this will be a solid kit, nothing is getting cheaped on its merely custom and requires a little head scratching other than your blatently overpriced "BOLT ON" yea!! let me pay 4000 extra for having someone already think for me ...
You forgot fuel lines, fpr, fuel rail cost, or mod stock one, gauges (at least 100$ to get a few crap gauges so you don't accidentally blow something up).

Now you're looking at about 3k. For not much more you could get a proven easy to do supercharger and yield just as much probably more power (and more importantly more reliable). If you are serious about it get a utec, and not osiris. Map>maf.

It's stupid that you are now changing to 1000cc injectors too, because that will require an expensive ecu upgrade. When I talked to osiris they said they have some issues with scaling 850cc and up injectors... They can get it to work, but not that well.
And you're going to have to upgrade your maf, which is going to be another 350$.


I'm just going to say this once. You're dumb if think you can pull this off on your own with what you clearly don't know. I'm pretty young myself (don't like directly stating my age, because I don't feel like it's very important to what I have to say) and I'm no god, but I know a hell of a lot more than you do, and I am attempting a much more difficult build. Take it from me, you're not ready for this, unless you have FUNDS, which you clearly don't. You will be ready if you spend a lot of time researching (at least another 6 months probably), get some friends who know the car world very well, and get in touch with good shops who can give you quality advice. That being said, if you ask a shop questions and ask them for advice, be courteous and provide them business. They aren't there to make your day, they're there to put food on the table. With good shops they love what they do, bad ones they're just out to make a buck. Either way don't f*ck them over.
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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
If you can't figure out where to mount the BOV or that you need to weld up the flap to convert from internal to external gate, you should not be doing this setup IMHO.
Agreed. Such simple questions...
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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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If you can't figure out where to mount the BOV or that you need to weld up the flap to convert from internal to external gate, you should not be doing this setup IMHO.

Next, you're going to need some kind of oil pressure bypass or regulator. Most guys with standalone turbo oil systems make their own. Without a pressure regulator you are going to blow the seal on a shitty turbo, or face under oiling the turbo and ruining it worse. Sh*tty cheap turbos have the biggest issues with oiling, sometimes they need extra parts to work right, most of the time the knock off turbos will fail regardless of how you set them up. That is unless you are talking about holsets, master powers, or entry level precisions... Those are all great turbos. But ebay junk fails 90% of the time, usually because they are never balanced.

@Binder, I'm pretty sure if you run a 4 quart tank or larger you don't really need a cooler. At least I'll probably run 4-5 quarts with some fins on the tank and call it a day with the EXA pump (Big difference. If you're running sh*t pumps you're gonna have to use a cooler, preferably with a thermostat AND pressure bypass) on a standalone turbo oil system. You could easily run the thermostat oil cooler off the oil filter which you should use if you're making a standalone oil system.

Um have you ever heard of oil restrictors? LOL..

Tank will be in car.. 2 quart is fine with oil cooler,

Your negative input doesnt help, they are simple questions. Ive never gone N/A to turbo so wasnt sure if there was a difference.

and for the record it sounds like YOU have no idea what your talking about, oil restrictor is all you will need regardless of pressure it necks down the feed line so minimal oil can travel through it, I highly doubt I will run into oiling issues with a standalone pump as it is...

4 quart tank on a oiling system overkill much hahah

with a decent oil cooler it wont have any issues, especially being so far down the exhaust tract
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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
You forgot fuel lines, fpr, fuel rail cost, or mod stock one, gauges (at least 100$ to get a few crap gauges so you don't accidentally blow something up).

Now you're looking at about 3k. For not much more you could get a proven easy to do supercharger and yield just as much probably more power (and more importantly more reliable). If you are serious about it get a utec, and not osiris. Map>maf.

It's stupid that you are now changing to 1000cc injectors too, because that will require an expensive ecu upgrade. When I talked to osiris they said they have some issues with scaling 850cc and up injectors... They can get it to work, but not that well.
And you're going to have to upgrade your maf, which is going to be another 350$.


I'm just going to say this once. You're dumb if think you can pull this off on your own with what you clearly don't know. I'm pretty young myself (don't like directly stating my age, because I don't feel like it's very important to what I have to say) and I'm no god, but I know a hell of a lot more than you do, and I am attempting a much more difficult build. Take it from me, you're not ready for this, unless you have FUNDS, which you clearly don't. You will be ready if you spend a lot of time researching (at least another 6 months probably), get some friends who know the car world very well, and get in touch with good shops who can give you quality advice. That being said, if you ask a shop questions and ask them for advice, be courteous and provide them business. They aren't there to make your day, they're there to put food on the table. With good shops they love what they do, bad ones they're just out to make a buck. Either way don't f*ck them over.
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Your an idiot, superchargers have no torque hence why Im avoiding it -__-

never been a S/C person,

No need to mod stock rail or fpr or fuel line for my goals, 1000's will be fine already talked with osiris and plenty of people have been running them.

anyways i just scored a deal on 750cc's i will run

your an idiot, stock maf's will support ~370-400whp

your a hater, you guys are probably jealous that im going to pull this off at less than half the price of your kits

supercharger over turbo comment that you made is just LOL.

turbo > supercharger all day.

and at your comment of knowing more than me,

you guys swear like this is a pissing contest

true colors come out
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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by xslangx
Um have you ever heard of oil restrictors? LOL..

Tank will be in car.. 2 quart is fine with oil cooler,

Your negative input doesnt help, they are simple questions. Ive never gone N/A to turbo so wasnt sure if there was a difference.

and for the record it sounds like YOU have no idea what your talking about, oil restrictor is all you will need regardless of pressure it necks down the feed line so minimal oil can travel through it, I highly doubt I will run into oiling issues with a standalone pump as it is...

4 quart tank on a oiling system overkill much hahah

with a decent oil cooler it wont have any issues, especially being so far down the exhaust tract
There's a reason people don't typically run standalone oil systems in their cars; they are complicated. Even on sts, they return it to the oil pan. Only big $ builds run them typically.

I don't know what I'm talking about? Well that's pretty bad, I didn't know that. I guess my build is just a lie and I'm a fake, and I don't know anything about these cars.

And go back a post. I answered a couple of your questions. I double posted out of pure disgust to your obvious ignorance.

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Oil restrictors come stock on most quality turbos, but turbos are designed to see varying oil pressures (so they work well being oiled off the stock pressure fluctuations). Precision is one company I know rates their turbos to handle 60-80psi throughout the various turbine speeds. That being said, not all turbos can. Crap turbos have crap journals. There are reasons why one turbo costs 500 and another 1200. Next, even with a restrictor you can over oil a turbo easily. That's why there are TONS of threads about it on various forums... Usually if a turbo is getting over oiled there's oil in the exhaust, and you need to switch to a smaller oil feed to restrict some flow before you blow a seal.

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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Quamen
Agreed. Such simple questions...
Then why not just answer them instead of flaming hahah?

The logic here is pretty flawed..


Please dont treat this like its my first rodeo,

453 whp and 421 torque on mustang dyno w/ spray and 26 psi with NO aftermarket support completely custom done by yours truly,

why is the community such haters
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Originally Posted by xslangx
Then why not just answer them instead of flaming hahah?

The logic here is pretty flawed..


Please dont treat this like its my first rodeo,

453 whp and 421 torque on mustang dyno w/ spray and 26 psi with NO aftermarket support completely custom done by yours truly,

why is the community such haters
Because if you're such an ace you should be able to successfully use google search. Actually if you're such an ace, you wouldn't need any "aftermarket support"

I'm done with this retard race.
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Old May 14, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
Because if you're such an ace you should be able to successfully use google search. Actually if you're such an ace, you wouldn't need any "aftermarket support"

I'm done with this retard race.

Boy I hope your not as stupid as your comments, I hope you look into the mirror daily and ponder this
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now you're just as bad as us...
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now you're just as bad as us...

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there is no winning this deadly game.

Ill just sit back and post build photos
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i'm sure u have read this thread.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...brication.html

its not rocket science. this guy did it in his garage with a cheap welder.
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Old May 14, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
i'm sure u have read this thread.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...brication.html

its not rocket science. this guy did it in his garage with a cheap welder.
Much thanks!! Great link!
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i cant believe we are still feeding this trolls, your a ****ing idiot arnt you? 1) supercharger no torque? the setups for this vehicle might not match a turbo but go tell someone running something like the v7 in the market place it makes no torque or go tell a chevy guy his 8-71 makes no torque i wanna see how bad they stomp a mud hole in your *** for being ****ing stupid. just because the superchargers for this platform arnt really made to make huge numbers dosnt mean they dont have options out there that can, they just arnt as efficient.

stock fuel rails will probably be ok but considering how your a god damn fool a return system would save you from yourself but instead your going to blow your engine from a pressure spike or something of that nature and tune it lean then blow your **** when the spike dosnt happen again and the engine goes lean.

and i bet you know more then everything on this forum yahhhhh sure do guaranteed god damn fool do you really think your the only one who has ever built anything? please i bet ive forgotten more about cars then you know that is obvious by your ****ing simpleton questions that are entry level noob questions at best seriously "what do i have to do with the wastegate flapper?" WTF!? dude get the **** away from a car god damn your trying to build a turbo kit without knowing the concept of operation? seriously my 3 year old can sit down look at that **** and be like "oh if i want this external wastegate i need to make sure this one here dosnt open."



im amazed the mods have let either of your threads go so long the stupid in here hurts my eyes.

Edit: oh yah obviously you need to listen to the people who actually know something if you think your not going to need what people are telling you because its a rear mount. i have the same kit binder does and at 130 miles an hour my turbo gets hot enough THROUGH a heat blanket on the turbo, NOT touching anything under my car, that i cannot let my arm rest on my trans tunnel cover because it will burn my damn arm. like he said isnt **** you can do with a 1200+ degree ****ing turbo. 2 quarts of oil, HA i give you 250 miles and your bearings are so coked the turbo wont spin anymore, guaranteed your going to fry the pumps from hot oil AND boil the oil thats in the tank.
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Your an idiot, superchargers have no torque hence why Im avoiding it -__-

never been a S/C person,

No need to mod stock rail or fpr or fuel line for my goals, 1000's will be fine already talked with osiris and plenty of people have been running them.

anyways i just scored a deal on 750cc's i will run

your an idiot, stock maf's will support ~370-400whp

your a hater, you guys are probably jealous that im going to pull this off at less than half the price of your kits

supercharger over turbo comment that you made is just LOL.

turbo > supercharger all day.

and at your comment of knowing more than me,

you guys swear like this is a pissing contest

true colors come out

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stock hr maf's are good for alot. i havent had any issues with mine up to 670/700 so far.

but still op your in for a budget alot more than you currently have set aside. ive been trying to be helpful along the way with you while your deciding what your going to run but your coming off rude and unappreciative with people who are giving you solid advice. i learned alot from reading and asking questions from numerous members that have commented in this thread they know what they are talking about. do your research and dont buy cheap **** and just do it right once. theres a fine line between budget build and a back yard honda build and your walking a fine line it seems like. like everyone else has said

cheap fast reliable you only get two. this platform is a prime example of that
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because you are acting like your ****ing gods gift to the automotive world and pissing everyone off. really thats it for power? i was making more then that on my stock camaro with just spray, everything done myself. hell my entire suspension AND front k member i tig welded out of thick *** piping from the home depot and heim joints from summit, with a couple 5/8" ID hex tie rod adjusters to adjust everything. that number is pretty weak honestly.

Resmarted is right why are you asking all us dumb people questions if you obviously know everything and dont need help?
Originally Posted by xslangx
Then why not just answer them instead of flaming hahah?

The logic here is pretty flawed..


Please dont treat this like its my first rodeo,

453 whp and 421 torque on mustang dyno w/ spray and 26 psi with NO aftermarket support completely custom done by yours truly,

why is the community such haters

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Originally Posted by xslangx
Boy I hope your not as stupid as your comments, I hope you look into the mirror daily and ponder this
If you want, Ima be heading around cali for meets etc when the cars done. Maybe I'll come to Long Beach and give you a ride when it's all done? 1000 @ the crank isn't a joke.

PS you're a:


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Originally Posted by xslangx
Your an idiot, superchargers have no torque hence why Im avoiding it -__-

never been a S/C person,

No need to mod stock rail or fpr or fuel line for my goals, 1000's will be fine already talked with osiris and plenty of people have been running them.

anyways i just scored a deal on 750cc's i will run

your an idiot, stock maf's will support ~370-400whp

your a hater, you guys are probably jealous that im going to pull this off at less than half the price of your kits

supercharger over turbo comment that you made is just LOL.

turbo > supercharger all day.

and at your comment of knowing more than me,

you guys swear like this is a pissing contest

true colors come out
This guy....
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i honestly think he finally got the picture and went to some honda boards to talk about it since we all are noob haters
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