Originally Posted by Vince@R/TTuning

Shadi, I never "aggressively" steered you from Haltech, or whatever extra adjectives were used to make your statements sound stronger. Honestly it probably came up once during the initial build and our power goals were 500-550ish and I said it wasn't necessary. Also the budget you were initially working with really didn't allow it. Then when we made 600+ as easily as we did the Osiris was working flawlessly, by that I mean even running lower to higher boost values on the same map everything was adjusting accordingly. Timing and afr's were consistent at lower and higher boost and as boost was raised timing dipped down and AFR's richened slightly, BFS went up as MAF voltage increased. Everything looked great and I was confident that Osiris would be more then satisfactory for the set up. Another EMS option wasn't even discussed until you had a chance to get a full blown Haltech set up for something like 800 bucks. With dual widebands and all. If you recall I said..."I would def do that". At that point you asked me for the Osiris ROM file so that when you went Haltech your tuner could use those values to build a base map(knowing now you had your info incorrect)....I said "that's impossible but here is the ROM file and good luck"...or something to that effect.

Shadi, you need to be honest here with yourself...the scope of the motor build and set up has changed from a 500whp car that you wanna have fun at the track occasionally to a 600+whp car that you can flog for 5 or 6 40 minute sessions at a long road race course. We talked on the phone and we went over everything and what we could do together to get you right and you understood. Now here I see these posts where you are listening to all these other people and they give you guarantees and what it should and shouldn't be from people that never even seen your car...I am over it!! Your still trying to point fingers at everyone, accept no responsibility yourself and act like you are gonna give R/T one more chance to make it right, like we should be grateful to have this one last chance.... Then god forbid anything goes wrong your attitude is "well that is a whole other ball of wax all together". These are the reasons good shops(there are plenty out there) don't even wanna cut breaks or put themselves out there for customers as it always seems to back fire on them.

Bottom line is R/T or Vince(however you wanna label it) accept zero responsibility for the failure of your motor. I know what happened, I have datalogs, dyno graphs, emails of multiple failures of other sub systems on the car...all contributing factors to the ultimate failure. We are all adults and ultimately our decisions we own. Customers have responsibilities in these situations as well, whether it is using caution at the track and not driving so many laps with your car smoking so bad that you get black flagged from a blown turbo(and maybe you should have pulled off the track as soon as you saw any smoke) to maybe not spouting off your misguided feelings about the shop that has done the work on public forums to cause them to come in and have to defend themselves.

We're all big boys here....so with that said I am choosing NOT to work with you anymore, not on the discounted labor and parts at just above cost as we talked about to get you all back together or anything. I have the right to choose my customers and I wanna work with customers that can hold responsibility for the choices we make together on a project(and we have a lot of them and are very thankful), so when I get home I can just hang with my kids and not worry about having to check a forum for some posts that have half given info, unjustified finger pointing and just plain and simple ******** talked. I really don't plan on checking this thread or responding here anymore, so feel free to give me a call if you would like to discuss this, but as I have already spent way more time(including personal time away from my family) on this situation I will not be changing my decision. Thanks to all who gave us good words and those who made valid points and spoke intelligently for us.

Vince

Originally Posted by HashiriyaTuning

I hope you guys work out everything, and we can see this beauti back on the streets soon

Originally Posted by gixx76

Thanks DD, congrats on the "grand opening" car wash, was out of town, otherwise would have stopped in to show support, I heard you had a great turn out so that is good to hear.

Side note, My first car was an 88' CRX, had it built to over 400hp back then ( that was a long time ago back in 94' lol) your flamethrower well surpasses that but just a fun fact to your comment of " should get a Honda" ..great cars to mess with and relatively low cost. keep up the good work.